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Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> From 2024-01-06 to 2024-01-12 // 6,5 days // Hiking // NOBO // RR + OPT D // Quentin Clavel<br /> <br /> After the small part in the forest, I followed the gravel road, which began to be nice from the Laguna la Clara. Some nice miradors along the roads, especially the last one, salto Rio Perez, which was pretty impressive ! <br /> <br /> Then you begin the track los Pioneros. Pretty easy to follow, a bit muddy, but I thought it would have been worse, the last sunny weeks made it dryer than expected. <br /> <br /> From there, it's a sequence of up and down, with amazing views, on Lago Christie then on Lago Alegre, surrounded by mountains. <br /> <br /> Some easy bushbashing which is more like cross country at the end of Lago Alegre to arrive along the Rio bravo. <br /> <br /> The you go along the Rio bravo until cross it. I took the option D to avoid to cross it three times, it's bushbashing but pretty easy to follow as there's a kind of path which was created to go around the small cliffs, and have to cross rio bravo only once. <br /> <br /> On the section, at this time, I haven't got any problem at all to pass the rivers who were pretty low and with weak current. <br /> <br /> Then I arrived in the mountains and that was just amazing ! Even with an uncertain weather and lots of clouds ! <br /> <br /> I had an amazing bivy in front of the impressive calluqueo glacier then it was the looong Gravel road to Cochrane, but really scenic ! <br /> <br /> During all the section it was easy to find water as there's water everywhere ! Some nice camp spot too. <br /> <br /> Mosquitoes and these spiky plants who stay scratched to your shoes and socks are the only annoying stuff. <br /> <br /> Plenty of crowberry and Calafate on the track. Delicious and perfect snacks on the road ! <br /> <br /> Last but not least, if you've always dreamed to try hurdles in athletism, this section is for you ! You'll have to pass threw hundreds of fallen trees ! Enjoy ! <br /> <br /> <br /> *2024-Jan-01 to 2024-Jan-08 / 7.5 days / NOBO / Villa O'Higgins - Cochrane / RR and Option 36H-D / Alex &amp; Christophe<br /> <br /> We really enjoyed this section, especially the part of the pass, with awesome views on glaciers and mountains. We found the 2 lakes part nice but less impressive.<br /> <br /> For us, the most difficult with this section was to walk with heavy backpacks and to deal with the hundreds of mosquitoes on the camps near the two lakes. We had the chance to have dry trails most of the time and it helped us a lot. If it rains a lot before you start this section, you will need more time because the trail can get muddy really fast.<br /> <br /> After the first 9km in the forest, we tried to hitchhike from Villa O'Higgins to Lago Christie but we weren't lucky and couldn't find a car on a 1st of January. We only had a lift the second day for 15km by the carabineros. There is nearly no car passing on the X905 road so plan a day or two of extra food if you plan to hitchhike here. Taking a private transport to Lago Christie could also be a solution but it's expensive (about 70'000 CLP according to Martin from El Mosco in Villa O'Higgins).<br /> <br /> There is not much to say about the 2 lake part, we found the trail easy to follow and some nice shelter along the route. Apparently, there is a lot of trout in Lago Alegre. We didn't try to fish since it was raining but we let a peanut butter jar with a spoon (hook) and some fishing line rolled around the jar in the puesto next to Settler {36H} [118.9/486] (Margarita Bustos). She's actually not living there but the puesto is open and a nice shelter to cook (we put the tent next to it).<br /> <br /> For the second part with the pass, we found the trail also easy to follow. The OH-CC&amp;BB-A {36H-D} didn't took us too long and saved us at least 2 river crossing. All the other fords were sometimes wide but easy to pass.<br /> <br /> After 7 days, we tried to hitchhike on the X901 road near the Laguna Calluqueo and were really lucky. After only 4km, a car stopped and took us to X {36H} [5.5/267]. Maybe there is more traffic on this road than on the other side, especially with good weather during the holidays.<br /> <br /> *2023-Dec-25 to 2023-Dec-29 / 4.5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR / Stiina &amp; Kris<br /> <br /> We arranged a ride to skip the first 50km of the roadwalk. The trail was surprisingly good and well-trodden throughout, i.e. visually easy to follow. Some muddy sections here and there and steeper climbs and descents. Plenty of water throughout.<br /> <br /> The river crossings didn't pose any difficulties and we were blessed with good weather, despite one rainy night. The views were amazing - that so low down you could be face to face with glaciers!<br /> <br /> We did not find the trail around lakes any harder than the rest of the section. A few times the route goes on the coast, i.e. you need to walk through the water, but it was not an issue. In two cases the route splits into two, the correct trail being the easier one to miss, so need to pay attention to nav. Met Ruben the settler, very nice and friendly guy. We also met 4 other GPT hikers on this section, which was a bit of a shock.<br /> <br /> We walked 30km of the dirt road after Lago Christie until we finally got a hitch to Villa O'Higgins. Barely any traffic on the road, especially in the afternoon.<br /> <br /> * 2023-12-07 EXP-OH-TL-I 1day / Anh<br /> There is a damaged and not yet reopened route from Villa O’Higgins to Glacier Mosco: EXP-OH-TL-I &amp; EXP-OH-CC&amp;TL-I<br /> Together they are 24 km return and with a daypack it could work.<br /> The EXP-OH-TL-I trail is very well maintained and relatively well marked. There is even a very nice Refugio Puesto Rivera + campsite for tents along the way. BUT from km 7 the trail is damaged by landslides and the section after that is overgrown. I tried the last km via BB through the forest. After that everything should be clear and only CC to the Mosco glacier. Unfortunately, I make very slow progress with BB, it simply takes too much time and with a temperature of 15°C the river crossing afterwards would be dangerous. Unfortunately I have to abort (safety first) &amp; return.<br /> <br /> <br /> *2023-12-10 / 4 days / RR + OH-TL-V / SOBO / Anh<br /> <br /> A very experienced hiker/local in Villa O'Higgins advised me against NoBo due to high water levels in the next few days regarding river crossings.<br /> <br /> Day 1: With a private transfer to Laguna Calluqueo I had to hike a few more kilometers to the end of Ruta X-901 because it is private land closed by a gate. The first two river crossings were a bit above knee and sometimes strong current. The trail after that in the forest is actually made for horses, there are a lot of obstacles like fallen trees, overgrown bush, swampy paths. It is particularly misleading when the RR and horse path separate because it is suddenly very strange without horse tracks. It has rained and with the snow melting, the paths and streams are almost indistinguishable. I make very slow progress through the obstacles.<br /> The river crossing (Ford km 66.5) was long but in the evening without any problems (knee-deep). The path afterwards RR-CC-A to the camp was steep uphill, but more pleasant than in the forest. As you can see, this trail is only for hikers and it was very rarely used.<br /> <br /> Day 2: It was CC up, across the border from Argentina &amp; back into Chile. At this time there are still many snowfields to cross and therefore Ford (km 71.8) was under the snowfield, which made it very precarious for me. The river crossing Ford (km 77.4) was up to my hips with a strong current, but is not dangerous. Overall, I was much faster because there were hardly any obstacles (only Fords and completely swampy meadow).<br /> <br /> Day 3: The way back from yesterday + 250m river crossing should be easy and pleasant like yesterday! But there was a strong headwind &amp; snow = snow confusion. Then there was the fog and the infamous white-out. My footprints from yesterday were already filled with fresh snow, but still recognizable. I didn't have a long break, so I reached the day's destination very quickly.<br /> Bored, I just carried on hiking and didn't find the way back in the forest from day 1 so bad. I got through all the obstacles surprisingly quickly with the following strategy:<br /> - I had put on remedies on the way out, it had helped a lot. And I run like a horse, don't think twice, just jump over obstacles. The path is made for horses.<br /> - The way back is from the top, the path is much easier to recognize.<br /> - New strategy: just follow the horse tracks, even if I leave the RR.<br /> In the end, I had completed the entire way back from two days earlier in one day. It was about 27km, only possible because it was mostly downhill (450m uphill, 700m downhill).<br /> The price for this strategy was scratches and mini cuts from knees to shoes, very unpleasant at every river crossing.<br /> <br /> Day 4: OH-TL-V to the glacier at Laguna Calluqueo. You have to cross the river right at the beginning, it was a bit over your knees but easy. After that it's a slow climb of almost 700m. There were only a few tricky places: mini path on the precipice or slippery downhill. Overall, the path was very easy to recognize and very pleasant to run. Water is only available again at km 3.5, so you should take your time and enjoy the trail at a leisurely pace.<br /> During the night, a tent pole broke and the tent was damaged. There are no outdoor stores in Cochrane and you can't buy a new tent. In addition, a section on RR-GPT35 from Tamango entrance through Patagonia Park was not yet open.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> *2022 Dec Frank 6 days mainly SOBO<br /> <br /> As weather was initially poor I split the section as follows: 1. Got bus from Cochrane towards Lago Brown, got out @ road junction near Rio Tranquilo bridge, walked NOBO back to Cochrane. 2. While I was waiting for the ferry in Villa O'Higgins I walked out about 25KM NOBO to Padre Antonio Ronchi chapel &amp; hitched back to O'Higgins. 3. I again got the bus towards Lago Brown, got out @ the same junction &amp; walked the central section of the route SOBO in 4 long days.<br /> <br /> 1. NOBO, nearly all on road. You pass by the 'mortal falls' on Rio Tranquilo (by the bridge) About 1KM further on the road was blocked by aggressive dogs who came up from a settlement about 800M off the road. I had to shout to the settler to call them off. Around 7KM out from Cochrane the road bends left at a metal crash barrier. I left the RR here &amp; went over the low crash barrier &amp; continued straight ahead on forest tracks, quicker &amp; nicer than the road. About 1KM from Cochrane you return to the road by climbing over a small wooden gate.<br /> <br /> 3. I walked on the road past Calluqueo glacier then on a trail. After the first puesto the track fades out among fallen trees. Camped by a ruined shelter. I crossed the river on RR the next day. La Picota crossing is for horses &amp; best avoided on foot. The RR crossing was easy. After the crossing continue straight ahead &amp; go up the far hillside, pick up a small trail going left above a bluff about 70 metres up. Continued over the 2 border passes. There are some cliffs you need to go round when descending the first pass . There will be snowfields early in the season also. I crossed Rio Bravo high up between two waterfalls, descended to cross it again by the lake, then stayed on LHS of Rio Bravo. No trail initially on LHS of river &amp; a lot of bush bashing over bluffs but judging by later comments the route may now be improved. I continued down to Lago Alegre. There is a settler just as you reach Lago Alegre. She was friendly &amp; allowed me to sleep in her barn. She radioed Ruben, the settler who lives on Lago Christie, to let him know I was coming. It's slow going round the lakes with lots of up &amp; down over bluffs. The hut between the two lakes had been used by sheep &amp; was not in v. good condition. I met Ruben about half way round Lago Christie. He was friendly but I continued on to camp by a ruined hut after descending from bluffs to the lake. I walked out the road to Padre Antonio Ronchi chapel &amp; hitched from there to Villa O'Higgins. There is a good hut on the road at the junction with the X905 road. Another hut further on but it's dusty. All other huts marked on the route are in poor condition or ruined, they are mostly good for cooking &amp; camping outside. The weather for the central section was good so I didn't have any problems. It's possible to hitch part of the road sections - traffic is sparse but they will usually stop. In both cases when you reach the road there is nothing, you need to walk out about 15KM &amp; then start hitching.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> *11/12/2019 - les 2 As - regular hiking route <br /> <br /> Hi! We finished this day the section 36 from north to south. It took us 6 days without the last 37 kms on the road (we hitchhiked on this part). It was rough, we have had 2 days of bad weather (only rain at our altitude but it changes everything). You are isolated in the middle of nowhere and we met no one during 5 days. Officially no bush bashing but sometimes the path is barely invisible and unmaintained so hard to walk. From the 3rd day to the end, we have had many rivercrossings. Some were easy, some not and some also quite dangerous. With all the snow melting, the level of the river is very high and the current is strong (I do not recommand to try these fords without walking poles, these saved us). Same situation with the lakes we walked near. Their level is high and often the path was submerged and we had to walk litteraly in the lake (sometimes up to the waist). Luckily we met 2 cabañas (2 last nights) to dry our clothes and sleep under a roof. This made the section even more wonderful than it already was. A great experience!<br /> <br /> <br /> *2019 Dec / Olrik / Northbound<br /> <br /> From O'Higgins there are 50km on a dirt road to the beginning of the sendero. There are some open refugios on the way to sleep. you can also arrange a paid transportation from O'Higgins. Hitchhiking is possible but there is not much traffic. The sendero was in pretty bad shape due to the weather conditions. Muddy and flooded all the way near the lakes. We ended up turning back as we did not plan to walk that slow and did not have enough food, and we felt it was safer. We met Matthieu (see below) and they completed it so his report seems better. Puesteros are really nice though.<br /> <br /> <br /> *2019 Dec / Matthieu / Northbound Regular HR : 9 days<br /> A very difficil trekk for us. Lots of river crossings, sometimes unsafe, and we had very bad weather conditions that make us last 9 days on the trekk, with hitchiking 40 km after Villa and 30 km before Cochrane. It could habe been more rapid though, but we walked &quot;tranquilito&quot;. So I would recommend to take 10 days of food,and the chileans agreed with this.<br /> <br /> I wont talk about the routes parts, because just long and we hitchhiked most.<br /> <br /> So 1st Part : The 2 lakes : A very technical trekk, very aquatic. Sometimes we had to walk in the lake (not dangerous though), and the trail by the lakes is very hilly and muddy, and the progression can be very slow. It was for us, with mostly only rain. 1 dangerous rivercrossing : Before El Caleuche, Strong river but a big fat trunk above perfect for crossing.We didnt search for another way of crossing, so maybe there are some safe places by the water.<br /> <br /> On this part, a few puestos good for shelters : between the two lakes, a good caban with possibility of making fire and a roof of metal and walls, very nice, two beds of wood, we slept in it well protected. El Caleuche : at the middle of the Lago alegre, near a abandoned house. POssibility of fire, but not really a good roof. We slept aside in the tents. The place is really nice though<br /> <br /> 2 houses of settlers on the way : - Ruben at the beginning of the Lago Christie, always happy to have visitors and share a mate. - At the end of the Lago Allegre a little bit south west from the trail (a rivercrossing a bit strong to go to the caban, or a &quot;bridge&quot; called Bridge ?-4 on the GPS waypoints, with 2 trunks, that we took in the morning to go back to the trail. A bit dangerous though, better to let Carmen show you how to cross): Ringo y Carmen, amazing persons too who let us plant the tent and permitted us to warm with a good mate, a meal and a wonderful smile, during the Christmas night.<br /> <br /> 2nd part : Rio Bravo and the pass We thought that the worst was behind but we had more strong weather conditions in this part. A few advises for the rivercrossings of the Rio Bravo : I would advise NOT to follow the GPS tracks that follow the normal trail on GPS devices (that is made normally for horses). All the locals (local guides in villa o higgins, Ruben, Carmen and Ringo) were agreed and told us all to follow the east side of the Rio UNTIL the Laguna. The crossing here is very safe, the rio not strong nor profund at all, and you have to cross it ONLY ONCE, instead of 4 or 5 (dont remember). To stay on the east side, there is a little cross country by the forest, a little bit technical and slow but not dangerous, and you can camp at the laguna on the east side. We saw some cairns in the forest too, on the last hill before the laguna, so the locals indeed use this way. We (very badly) abandonned this plan and passed by the normal way just near the camping site west from the river before the Laguna (really bad weather, really bad decisions !) and the rivercrossings (3 I think) were, for me, very dangerous with strong current in profund water, but there was a lot of rain and wind, so I wont judge during good conditions. We were frozen when we arrived at the camping site. I was very angry at me though to not have listened to the locals and taken all those risks.<br /> <br /> For the pass, not very difficult, but we had (again) very strong weather conditions with even snow, and finished at the camp at the north side completely frozen. Know that it can be very exposed !<br /> <br /> Last Part : Rio La Picota After the camping : Two choices - Following the normal road, made for horses. The rivercrossing is completely impossible, unless you want to join the fishes. Even for horses I don't understand how they do it. The Waypoint &quot;Dangerous&quot; totally make sense. - The GPS tracks : perfect to follow, and finished by a beautiful trail of cairns by the cliff (the optionnal trail OH on GPS track), very safe. The river crossing this way is very safe, the river is extremely large, separated and never go far from the ankle.<br /> <br /> The rest we didn't have any technical difficulties. A trekk not to take lightly, and with much respect. Take advises to the locals before. Every one is happy to talk about it in Villa. They have the bad habbit to say that it's an easy way though !<br /> <br /> <br /> *2019-Nov-12 / Lea Geibel, Kevin Moe / 6 days / northbound / regular hiking route<br /> <br /> This was a tough section for us! It rained and it rained and it rained and the trail turned to mud and was pretty overgrown in parts. We took the optional Hiking route after reaching Rio Bravo heading South to the Carretera Austral because we didn't feel comfortable forging on, knowing there was a high pass that was probably getting tons of snow instead of our rain, and a &quot;dangerous river ford&quot; that we were afraid would be tok dangerous with flooding too. The snow-line appeared to drop as low as 700 meters one night! We made surprisingly slow progress because of the conditions (entire trail flooded knee deep and extremely muddy after 6 days of rain) - were glad to have extra food with us. On the bail out route, about 10km from reaching the safety of the Carratera there was a pretty big river to cross. It was swollen after all the rain and scary and nearly floated us away. From the Carratera we hiked about 20 minutes before catching a lift back to Villa O'Higgins<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> *Route description by Kara Davis after Season 2017/18:<br /> <br /> Walk through town and join Highway 7, a moderately trafficked dirt road. The Regular Hiking Route follows X-901, a beautiful but fenced dirt road that culminates in the view of a stunning glacier, for about 28 km until it ends at a blockade just after the Mirador Calluqueo. Along X-901 there are few residences but extensive fence line on both sides. At the end of the road, the route transitions into a braided single track trail that may be confusing to follow.<br /> <br /> <br /> Comment by Jan Dudeck: I recently changed the regular packrafting route of GPT36H. This change avoids 35 km of gravel and adds around 70 km of paddling on the two lakes and one river. It’s a big detour but adds impressive beauty. Note that paddling Lago Cochrane is very challenging as wind can be firce. Follow the regular packrafting route only if you are willing and prepared to possibly wait several days on the shore of Lago Cochrane if wind makes paddling this lake unsafe.<br /> <br /> <br /> The trail, called La Ruta de Los Pioneros since it is frequently used by the local people, occasionally passes run down refugios as it winds through the forest. At the beginning of the climb to the highest pass, the trail joins a glacial river. Eventually the trail leaves the river to the west and follows a higher route above the valley that is occasionally marked by stone cairns. The top of the pass is at approximate elevation 1.300 m. From this point, there are several kilometers of very exposed hiking among rolling hills.<br /> <br /> The track descends down to treeline at a small, unnamed lake which is the source of the Río Bravo. Join the river and cross it as necessary. There are some stone cairns that mark the way, but they can be hard to spot. When the route is unclear, just follow the river bed. Where the trail deviates from the river bed to the east, it becomes easier to follow. The trail soon climbs about 80 m and remains above Río Bravo. Here there is the occasional small area to camp. To reach Lago Alegre, the trail leaves Río Bravo and travels through an open forest.<br /> <br /> Packrafters put in for Lago Alegre at a red sand beach. In general, both banks are very steep and heavily vegetated, but there are some flat areas near the shore where it may be possible to camp. Take-out is located at a rocky beach on the southeast end. 100 m from the Lago Alegre shoreline is an intact refugio; if you look closely inside, you may spot the etchings of GPT trail blazers, Jan and Meylin.<br /> <br /> From the refugio, there is a well-formed track to Lago Christie. The Regular Hiking route around the east side of Lago Christie is generally easy to follow, but be aware of the occasional spurs that leads away from the main route. The track climbs and descends frequently as it makes its way around the lake and offers a beautiful view of several glaciers. Watch for the occasional stone cairn or red spray-painted arrow to indicate the way. Camping is possible in the forest.<br /> <br /> The route exits onto X-911, a well formed and lightly trafficked gravel road. X-911 ends at X-905, and hikers continue to follow this road for around 20 km towards VIlla O’Higgins. X-905 is fence lined most of the way with the occasional residence.<br /> <br /> Río Mayer is a big, no-nonsense river that is swift at higher flows. It does however mellow out where the GPS route indicates packrafters should put in (a small beach on the other side of the fence).<br /> <br /> The Regular Hiking Route follows the Carretera Austral into Villa O’Higgins.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> *Villa O’Higgins<br /> <br /> The biggest thing to realize about Villa O’Higgins is that nearly all of the lodging and restaurant options only take cash and there is no ATM in town. The closest place to withdraw money is Cochrane which is a 9-hour drive. Fortunately, there are two grocery stores in town thatl take credit cards. Lodging options vary from camping to a bed in a hostel.<br /> <br /> *Supermarket on the square in Cochrane. Several shops in Villa O'Higgins.<br /> <br /> *Banco Estado on the square in Cochrane. The ATM was open on Christmas day.<br /> <br /> *Cochrane: Campsite run by Patricia half a block from the Plaza. She does a good breakfast &amp; also has Cabanas &amp; a 4 bed dorm.<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> *There are no resupply options &amp; you should bring everything from Cochrane or O'Higgins. There are only two settlers living permanently on the central off road RR: A woman at Lago Alegre &amp; Ruben on Lago Christie. All other off road puestos are only used occasionally.<br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> *There is a minibus from Cochrane to Villa O'Higgins on Monday, Wednesday &amp; Saturday at 8AM &amp; one from O'Higgins to Cochrane on Tuesday, Thursday &amp; Sunday @ 8AM. Operated by Buses Katalina, they have an office at the bus terminal in Cochrane. There is a minibus from Cochrane to Lago Brown on Monday &amp; Thursday at 11AM. It comes back from Lago Brown on the same days &amp; passes the junction with RR at about 2PM.<br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT36H - Ruta De Los Pioneros]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> [[Archivo:IMG 7500.jpeg|miniaturadeimagen|Puerto Yungay - Rio Bravo Ferry Timetable February 2024]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=Archivo:IMG_7500.jpeg&diff=114309 Archivo:IMG 7500.jpeg 2024-02-18T22:00:29Z <p>Jandudeck: </p> <hr /> <div></div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT38_(Glaciar_Chico)&diff=113509 GPT38 (Glaciar Chico) 2024-01-05T00:38:34Z <p>Jandudeck: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> * GPT38 / Option 4 (Campo Hielo Sur: Glaciar Chico to Circo de los Altares and back) / 6 days Hiking on Glaciers with Mountain Guide / 2023-Dec-29 to 2024-Jan-03 / Meylin, Masha, Misha, Jan<br /> <br /> We planned this guided tour onto the Southern Patagonian Icefield several months in advance. We arranged this tour with the mountain guide Leo Muñoz (leoskatan@hotmail.com, WhatsApp +56 9 6904 9561) who knows the Northern and the Southern Patagonian Icefield very well and who lives with his family next to Glacier O’Higgins on the shore of Lago O’Higgins about 70 boat kilometers from Villa O’Higgins.<br /> <br /> We agreed in November 2023 to make an attempt somewhen in the first half of January of 2024 as soon as the weather forecast promises a decent weather window. On December 25 Leo suggested to start on December 29 as wind and precipitation forecast predicted 6 decent days.<br /> <br /> Day 1: We met in the afternoon at Lago Chico (where Lago Chico drains into Lago O’Higgins), continued by boat on Lago Chico to an island that is partially covered by Glacier Chico, pulled the boat up into a safe location and started right on Glacier Chico. We reached in the evening the first refuge (Refugio Pantoja). Starting right on the glacier avoided an otherwise demanding river crossing.<br /> <br /> Day 2: In a long day we reached the third refuge (Refugio Garcia Soto). We walked mostly on Glacier Chico but in areas where this glacier is steep and with deep cracks we left the glacier and walked in rocky terrain. In this terrain is also the second refuge (Refugio Piedra Roja) where we stopped for lunch.<br /> <br /> Day 3: In a demanding day we walked over the icefield to Circo los Altares. The wet snow covered all cracks of the icefield but made walking tiresome. For safety reasons we walked the entire distance roped together (2 groups of 3 persons linked together). We camped one night at Circo los Altares and enjoyed a good view of Cerro Torres in the evening and morning.<br /> <br /> Day 4: In a similar tiresome day we returned to Refugio Garcia Soto. We arrived around 2 pm in afternoon what permitted a good rest. This refuge offers ample space and is a good place to wait a day or two if the weather makes this necessary.<br /> <br /> Day 5: We returned to the first refuge (Refugio Pantoja). If necessary we might have returned to the boat on the sane day but the good weather forecast for the next day made such an effort unnecessary.<br /> <br /> Day 6: On a short morning we returned on glacier Chico to the boat, packed our gear into the boat and travelled by boat to our guides home (Rio Condor). On the way we stopped briefly at a settlers home (La Carmela) to purchase a lamb for a Patagonian asado al palo.<br /> <br /> Conclusions:<br /> <br /> 1. Leaving the exact start date open was perfect as it permitted our guide to choose a descent weather window.<br /> <br /> 2. In case of a shorter weather window a shorter route could have been chosen (in example to Refuigo Garcia Soto only.<br /> <br /> 3. This was our first experience walking on glaciers but this was perfectly feasible with our experienced guide.<br /> <br /> 4. Boat safety regulations on Lago O’Higgins required our mountain guide to do the boat trip with a second person that has motor boat license. Therefore a second guide accompanied us. This added safety but also cost.<br /> <br /> 5. Returning with the mountain guide to his home at Rio Condor before continuing by packraft is an experience on its own and lift the entire trip to a higher level.<br /> <br /> 6. We send some of the required equipment in advance to our mountain guide but he would have been able to equip up to 6 persons with his gear.<br /> <br /> <br /> * Copied from Jan's Facebook post December 2023: &quot;GPT38: Border Crossing: Candelario Mancilla (CL) - Lago El Desierto (AR)<br /> <br /> We now learned that both border controls speak to each other and exchange how many persons crossed the border and are meant to arrive on the other side. If a person does not arrive within 2 days a search is initiated. Therefore it is not any more possible to hike the longer more scenic route between collecting the exit and entry stamps of both countries. <br /> <br /> Therefore all hikers must take the direct route (see image red line) and visit the more scenic parts around Lago Chico and Peninsula La Carmela either before exiting Chile or after collecting the Chilean entry stamp.<br /> <br /> Alternatively you might openly explain your plans and try to get an official approval but this seams quite unlikely.&quot;<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2023-Dec-20 to 2023-Dec-20 / 1 day/ NOBO / Lago del desierto - Candelario Mancilla/ Option 1/ Alex &amp; Christophe<br /> <br /> Since you have to collect your exit and entry stamp on the same day, we took the fastest way between the two border controls. Once we finished with the formalities on the chilean side, one boat for Villa O'Higgins was waiting for us. I think we got lucky.<br /> <br /> If you want to go to glaciar chico, you have to go to Candelario Mancilla and then, go and back to the glacier, all on the chilean side. Passo del diablo is a forbidden pass to cross the border between Argentina and Chile.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2023-12-10 to 13 Fangwen and Tobi / 4 days / NOBO / Hiking from Candelario Mansilla to Don Lucho peninsula and back<br /> <br /> This was an enjoyable hike with good views! When we came from Argentina, it rained a lot, and was very muddy. We stayed at the campsite at Candelario Mansilla for one night and went Westbound on the regular route, crossing the river shortly after the beginning of the trail at km7. After the substantial rainfall, it was almost waist deep, but crossable with caution. The pass towards the abandoned settler home at km23.5 was quite muddy again, and in the last bit of the descent, the trail was overgrown and required attention to not lose. We camped outside the hut. The next day we went on part of Option 37P-16 as a day trip. We headed to the river (outflow of Lago Chico) and waited for the settler Don Lucho to notice us and to ferry us to the other side using his boat. This worked finally, after waiting for almost 3h. We did a nice trip up to the pass and followed one of the many horse trails to some mountain lakes and viewpoints. We let Don Lucho ferry us back to camp and headed back the next day. After two days of dry weather, the previously problematic river was now easily passable, with water at knee level.<br /> <br /> Logistics: We combined sections 38 and 37 on our NOBO trip. We carried a lot of food with us from Argentina: enough for 38, 37 and to be able to spend a few days in Candelario Mansilla in case the ferry is delayed due to bad weather. We decided against road walking with heavy packs, and arranged for Ricardo (WhatsApp +56 9 9126 7007), who runs the campground at Candelario Mansilla, to pick us up from the border by car. Ricardo is a very nice guy, and we stayed in his hostel after registering at the border checkpoint. The hostel was 15.000 CLP per person, the pickup from the border 20.000 for two people and the drop-off at the junction (X {38-01} at km0) 10.000 for two people. In high season he might not have time or charge more. Don Lucho asked for 10.000 for the return trip for the two of us.<br /> I believe that Ricardo puts you in the first-come-first-served queue for the ferry from Candelario Mansilla when you first arrive there -- but I'm not even sure if there is even an official queue (in our case, the ferry was not full, so it didn't matter). When Ricardo drove us to the junction, he also made us register our hiking plans with border guards. The guards wanted to see that we are sufficiently prepared. We showed them our GPS and inReach, but they were most wow-ed by the locus maps app with the GPT track files and kept asking where they could get such a detailed map of the area ;-).<br /> For the logistics regarding section 37, see our trip report on [[GPT37H|that wiki page]].<br /> <br /> *2023 Ahn, Warning between exit &amp; entry: <br /> You have to reach the other border control within one day, since recently both border controls compare the data every day.<br /> If you do not arrive within one day, they (both border controls) will really go looking for you.<br /> <br /> *2023-12-04 Anh / 3 days / NOBO / RR + OH-TL-V + RP-TL-V<br /> Day 1: After the exit stamp from the Argentinian border control in Lago del Desierto, I turned left to RR to Lago Diablo. The path is sometimes hard to find and with my heavy backpack I couldn‘t hike fast. I had to cross the stream twice without shoes. But it was no problem (knee-deep, good weather). After Lago Diablo I turned left via OH-TL-V to Glacier Chico. I did not find the camp {38-03} [1.8/878].<br /> <br /> Day 2: Back to RH-TL-V towards the connecting channel to Glaciar O'Higgins. The trail was a little easier to find, but not better to walk because hardly anyone had walked it in recent years.<br /> Settler {38} [23.5/261] in the intersection is no longer inhabited, but the owner has a sign in front of the house. He allows free camping on his property and possibly even overnight stays in the house (with kitchen).<br /> But I go on to Settler {38} [25.3/268] to cross the connecting channel by boat.<br /> <br /> It was already 5:00PM and I just wanted to set up my tent &amp; enjoy the evening quietly. At that moment, a motorboat with 3 men with backpacks arrived. They were not tourists, but border guards (carabineros). They were not pleasant at first. I understood from their Spanish that they were looking for me and that I was not allowed to be here. For the first time on this trip, I was lucky that I couldn't speak any Spanish and they couldn't speak any English. Otherwise they would be angry!<br /> <br /> I was able to explain with place names that I was not a criminal but a hiker. They had a long discussion in the house and in the end they said that I didn't have to come to the border station right now, but that they would come with me to Glaciar O'Higgins immediately!<br /> After a long day from Glaciar Chico, I didn't want to hike 7km up with 600Hm, but I had no other choice. So we started at 6:00 PM, the settler owner went ahead and the 3 young border guards climbed the mountain with full energy ahead, me behind. It was good that I don't usually run at my limit and still had a day's reserve at that moment. The 3 carabineros asked me from time to time how I was doing and whether I needed help -&gt; very nice.<br /> <br /> After 4km, the settler owner explained that it would soon be dark and he had to go back. He showed the Carabineros the way back on the (somewhat outdated) paper map. The Carabineros have the best modern equipment (GoreTex, expedition tent...) but no GPS navigation device and don't know the way. With my GPS navigation device, we became a team and had a lot of fun all the way to camp.<br /> The atmosphere around the campfire was much more relaxed. It turned out that they had taken a lot of food with them to look for me, but had left it behind in the settler. So of course I had cooked for them, it was really delicious and after a hike it was even better than usual. The 3 Carabineros said they had never eaten so well. We enjoyed the sunset at Glaciar O'Higgins together and laughed into the night.<br /> <br /> Day 3: At 7:00 AM, just like the military, we continued on RP-TL-V towards the pass. It was great fun with my 3 new friends and the views with the best weather were simply magnificent. However, 2km before the pass, my Carabineros wanted to go back because they now consider the hike to be strenuous and with respect. It's a pity but they are in charge despite their new friendship! I'm still very happy that they found me, it was an unforgettable experience! We were able to help each other, they are 3 cool and very very helpful Carabinos.<br /> RP-TL-V is easy for GPT hikers, much easier than the other two sections.<br /> <br /> Back to the settler they had called the patrol boat by radio and we went to Candelario Mancilla with the very modern and super stable HiTech boat. I got my entry stamps and was even invited to dinner at the border control station. After that I ended up in Villa O'Higgins.<br /> It was a bit of a shame to break off GPT38 like that, but I will never forget the best moments and the 3 new Carabineros friends. I'm starting to love GPT now!!!<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> * 2023-Apr-19 to 2023-Apr-21 / 3 days / RR / SOBO / Martin &amp; Helena<br /> <br /> Beautiful section! The detour to Glaciar Chico is definitely worth it, and so is the viewpoint.<br /> <br /> On the first day, starting around 8 AM, we passed the border control without any problem, and followed the trail in quite good pace to the pass. It was very windy there in our case, but there are places to hide. The trail is pretty clear all the time. This changes during the descent down to the peninsula, where you need to look carefully at the navigation as the path divides into different directions. Marked camp on the peninsula looked like a good place to stay, but we decided to do some more and continued for about 4 km. We camped in the forest, where we were able to find a few spots almost without wind, but in more extreme conditions it might be harder to find a 100% safe place.<br /> <br /> On the next day we continued and left our backpacks in the forest to go check the viewpoint. It took us a little over 3 hrs + some time for the photos etc. The trail is very easy to follow and except of the beginning and end its not even that windy. If the weather is not the best or you don’t have time, we would recommend to do at least first few hundred meters of the optional trail to get better view of the glacier and floating icebergs. Back on the RR we made a little less than half of the way to the border control and again camped in the forest. <br /> <br /> The last day was all about forest walking. First views of the Fitz Roy on the way to the border control. There, the officer noticed the old stamp and asked where we stayed, but was probably just curious and had no problem with our honest answer about doing the detour and camping in the forest.<br /> <br /> Contact: @martin_hanzelka @helenneka<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2023-Mar-20 to 2023-Mar-22 / SOBO / RR + option 4 / Villa O'Higgins - Lago del Desierto / Anna &amp; Christopher<br /> <br /> Amazing section, one of our favourites so far!<br /> <br /> In march and april the ferry that crosses Lago O'Higgins only leaves twice a week, which is mondays and thursdays at 8 a.m. (company Las Ruedas, reservation possible via whatsapp +56 966278836).<br /> <br /> We started with seven days worth of food, because we planned to go to El Chaltén without a resupply (GPT 38+39 with all options).<br /> The weather was great on our first day and after we got through the border control we started walking around 11:15 a.m.<br /> The trail is in a pretty good condition. Your feet will get wet though. With the nice weather and the good trail we camped at km 21 in the forest close to the stream.<br /> <br /> Then the trail becomes gradually a bit worse and we had to do some BB and CC along the lake. At the junction with option 4 we left our packs and went to the mirador. We had good weather and the view from up there is amazing. We highly recommend doing it, if the weather is good. Then we went back down again and camped in the forest at the junction. There is a stream close by to fetch water.<br /> <br /> The trail becomes super good again once you reach the settler at Lago del Desierto. The border control was fast and the staff was really friendly. We continued along the lake. At some point it started to rain, so we camped next to a stream at approx. km 4.6. At km 4.3 there would have been a more rain and wind protected camp.<br /> <br /> The next day we had a great view of Fitz Roy in the morning sun. We arrived at the other side around 10 a.m. There is no bus leaving around this hour, opposite of what the gendarm at the border told us. All the buses/cars leave in the afternoon around 4 p.m.<br /> We made a break at the restaurant and enjoyed a warming mate tea before we continued to section 39.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2023-Mar-16 to 2023-Mar-20 / 4 days / SOBO / RR + option 5 / Louis &amp; Rémi<br /> <br /> We started at Candelario Mansilla and we wanted to go in front of the Glaciar O'Higgins following the lake with option 5 and then option 2. Option 5 is really worth it, views all along the lake are incredible, I highly recommend it. We slept near the Settler @km 17.8, nobody was there.<br /> <br /> The next day we tried to cross this water canal between Lago O'Higgins and Lago Chico, but it is unfordable, you have to yell for the settler who lives on the other side. We did, we saw him, but he didnt come... So we slept next to the settler @km 23.5 on RR and we tried the 3rd day too but still nobody to help us to cross. Well, I think this settler isnt reliable if you wanna do option 2 without a packraft.<br /> <br /> So we continued our way to Argentina, sleeping @km 31.4 (the puesto is more than abandonned, it is destroyed but it is flat and there is no wind).<br /> <br /> This portion provide a nice view of the Glaciar Chico.<br /> <br /> Next we went directly to the Argentinian border and we didn't have any problem to get the stamp on our passports. We slept there, it is free, there is nobody and the view of the Fitz Roy above the Lago del Desierto is definitely worth it !<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2023-Mar-04 to 2023-Mar-07 / 3.5 days / SOBO / RR + Option 4 / Candelario Mansilla - Lago Desierto / Ondrej<br /> <br /> I wasn’t lucky with the weather so this section turned out into rainy, muddy and snowy feat for me. It felt remote and adventurous. If I could choose I would do at least the second day in a good weather to enjoy the views. <br /> <br /> On the first day, I got dropped of by the boat at Candelario Marcilla around 10am. Getting the stamp from Chilean carabineros took longer than expected, around one hour. A number of hikers accumulated there and the carabineros said that we have wait for them to upload our names to the system(?). Then they just asked for my occupation and gave me the exit stamp. I then hiked the stretch on the main road, forded Rio Obstaculo right after (the deepest ford on the section I would say, it was easy even after a day of rain) and then over the pass. At the pass you will come into a long flat valley which in my case started turning into a big muddy/swampy plain. It also started snowing. The falling wet snow and the soaky trails pushed the hike to the boundaries of my comfort limits (but still manageable). I camped at the Settler waypoint (km23.5). According to a person running a hostel in villa o higgins, the Settler’s place has been abandonded for a while now (presumably someone other bought the land) and both locals and international hikers are now using the garden of the settler’s house to camp. The area around the house features thick tall trees that provide a good shelter from wind and rain, some open sheds with a good roof (but all looked uncomfortable for sleeping) and a dry toilet. The house itself is locked with a padlock and cannot be used by visitors. I stayed in a tree covered area next to the house for two nights as the next day was raining all day. Foxes, various birds and wild cows kept me a company. <br /> <br /> From the settler, it is a relatively easy trail up to the crossroad at km33.4. The trail is ocassionaly overgrown and muddy but nothing dramatic. Nice views over the lake Chico and the glacier. I was impressed by a floating iceberg that made its way slowly across the lake. I had my lunch at the crossroad (km33.4) and decided to leave my backpack there and hike/jog to the glaciar viewpoint (Option 4). It took me about 2:10 hours there and back to the crossroad. I jogged parts of it. The weather got bad during the loop (clouds and rain/snow) so I unfortnunately saw nothing but a bit more of the Glaciar Chico once reaching the viewpoint. All distant peaks were obscured in clouds. My recommendation is to do the Option 4 only if the visibility is good, otherwise the detour might be not worth it. Once finished with the loop, I hiked over the Argentinian border and slept inside Refugio Diablo at km34.4. It is in good shape overall. Just the fireplace might not run well (i have not tried) as the chimney is broken. The refugio has two elevated platforms for sleeping (easily fits 4-8 people), a table and stools, and a dry toilet nearby. If staying there, I recommend to take water from a stream flowing into the lake Diablo before reaching the refugio. There is no quick water access from the building - one must go down to one of the lakes.<br /> <br /> From Refugio Diablo it took me about 5 hours to reach the argentinian police checkpoint at Lago Desierto. The part is relatively straightforward, again a bit swampy in my case. At he Argentinian police checkpoint I was actually asked why I had a three day old stamp. I wanted to avoid problems, so I said that I took a slow pace and did not walk on some days because it was raining constantly (which was true). I said that I built my tent, read a book and trying to wait out the rain. This (in a hindsight really poor) excuse was fortunately enough for the officer. He nodded and gave me the stamp. Maybe the policeman was simply curious and even if I told him where I came from he would be eventually fine with that. I didn’t want to take my chances though.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2023-Jan-10 / 2 days / Helen and Craig<br /> <br /> &gt;Lago Desertio ferry cost about 50 dollars (we didn't take it)<br /> <br /> &gt;O'Higgins ferry cost 60 dollars and they give you a lift to V O'Higgins at the other end<br /> <br /> &gt;We took the lake side trail. Beautifull veiws over Fitzroy range. Campsite at the border crossing is exposed but harbours some of the best campside veiws. 2nd best camp of GPT for us (but would be unpleasant in high winds)<br /> <br /> Border crossing was very easy with no proplems or searches either side. Had to take shorter route due to higher winds coming in and the O'Higgins ferry not due to run for the next week after. Shorter variation was very easy trail markings. Easy to walk in 4-5 hours<br /> Was sad to miss the extended route.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2023-Feb-13 to 2023-Feb-17 / 5 days / RR / SOBO / also Option 2 to Glaciar O'Higgins / Véronica &amp; Zach <br /> <br /> Route: Candelario Mancilla - Río Bullicioso - Lago Chico - Mirador Glaciar O'Higgins - Glaciar Chico - Lago Diablo - AR Border Control <br /> <br /> This may have been my favourite section of the GPT yet this year. After 4 days waiting in Villa Ohiggins for a calm ferry day, we waited at the Chilean carabineros post because the computer systems were down and it was lunchtime so everyone seemed to be on break. They asked everyone only occupations and marital status, nothing about our planned route. We were able to start walking only around 3 p.m. although we arrived at Candelario Mancilla around 1 p.m. <br /> <br /> The trail that veers off the minor road was clearly marked and easy to follow. Tons of crowberries/murtillas up in the alpine. We camped before the pass at km 14.5 when the trail was still going through sheltered forests. Up on the pass the next day, it was very cold and exposed and windy, with some snow on the ground. The trees start appearing again much later, when you can see Lago O'Higgins again. The trail switchbacks down to the settler's house at km 23.5 (Estancia Ventisquero Chico) were overgrown and confusing, branching into many paths. <br /> <br /> We wanted to take Option 2 in order to see Glaciar O'Higgins. This detour took us an extra day and a half. We crossed the narrow channel at km 25.1 in Zach's packraft quite easily, even though the wind was gusty from the south. There were virtually no waves and the water was flat. We met the settler Luis at km 25.3 (Estancia La Carmela), who was friendly and indicated the trail toward Glaciar O'Higgins. Both waypointed campsites on the west side of the peninsula are great and sheltered from the fierce west wind in the forest. The views of the lake and mountains and glaciers on this section of trail are beyond words beautiful. <br /> <br /> The way up the pass at km 40.5 is straightforward despite the lack of trail. The descent into the next valley is steep and somewhat tiring, but not dangerous, down a mountainside covered with murtilla plants. We stopped at the orange refugio (km 47.3) late in the afternoon. It is in great condition. The only thing deteriorated is the missing battery from the solar system. Feels like an airplane fusilage with some loud resonance when the wind is strong. Perfect place to shelter from the wind. <br /> <br /> We stayed mostly in the left side of the river as we traveled cross-country to the put-in at Lago Chico. The packrafting back to the east shore of the lake was wavy and windy, the wind coming strong off Glaciar Chico (southerly), requiring a hearty ferry crossing in front of the hanging ice.  From the put-in, the island (which appears on sattelite but not maps) looks like a peninsula, but if you paddle into what looks like a cove, you'll see the gap. We went around south of the island, then rode the wind northward to the takeout in a small cove. <br /> <br /> The refuge {38} [52.9+0.3/297] was clipped closed with two padlocks as chain links. Someone left clothes hanging and a plastic chest full of food which mice seem to have enjoyed. The floor was literally covered in mouse poop. Seemed hanta-ed. 👻 The climb back up to the regular hiking route was long but pleasant, and mostly cross-country across rock slabs and brushy fields. <br /> <br /> Back on the regular route, Refugio Diablo on the Argentine side of the border has a wooden table and platforms that could sleep four. When we got to the Argentine border control with a three-day-old Chilean exit stamp, the friendly border agent gave us our entry stamp without question. When asked about the wind on Lago Del Desierto, he walked Zach to the Gendarmeria boat captain who gave useful advice. <br /> <br /> <br /> * 2023-Jan / SOBO / Yannic &amp; Mirjam<br /> <br /> The exit on the Chilean side worked without any problems and the officials did not ask about our route.<br /> <br /> No one was at home at the Estancia Ventisquiero Chico settler. We spent the night a little further away by the stream.<br /> <br /> The hike along Lago Chico was nice and easy. We made a detour via option 4. It is worth going almost to the end to the viewpoint at 1104 m a.s.l. The view of the glacier and the ice field was unique and one of the best viewpoints on the whole GPT.<br /> <br /> The next day we went to the Argentine border authorities. The officials were relaxed and since we wanted to spend the night there anyway, we agreed to do the stamp the next day.<br /> <br /> The exit stamp, which was 4 days old in the meantime, was no problem at all...<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2022-Dec-09 / half a day / SOBO / Frank<br /> <br /> The first 12KM of the direct route from Candelario Mansilla is on a road. There is a guy with a jeep who meets the ferry &amp; may offer to take luggage or even passengers along the road. At the pass a trail continues down to the Argentine border post. <br /> <br /> I continued around Laguna del Desierto the same day.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> * 2022-Jan / NOBO / Alexis y Iris<br /> <br /> Took 4 days between the two stamps without issues. The Chilean carabineros just asked our route and we said we hiked through Refugio Diablo. <br /> <br /> To ressuply in Candilla Mancilla, it is possible to ask Maria Louisa at the camping. There are more items than you could imagine but it's a bit expensive. <br /> <br /> Of note, it is possible to arrange a transfer directly to Bahia Pescado on the same boat that goes to Villa O'Higgins to hike the GPT37H, just ask the captain directly. <br /> <br /> The fare for a complete transfer is 60k CLP or 70 USD. We don't know the price for a drop off in Bahia Pescado.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> * 2019-Dec-12 / SOBO / Arnaud et Adriane<br /> <br /> According to the team of our hotel in Villa O'Higgins, we officially have 24h to cross the 2 borders.<br /> <br /> So we prefered not to take risks with customs of Chile and Argentina and walked directly from Mancilla (chilean border) to punta Norte (argentinien border). There is 21km to walk and it is very easy.<br /> <br /> After the argentinian border, we walked to the mirador on the glaciar chico. It is the last 15kms of the real section 38. The view on the glaciar is amazing there and really worth the effort. After just walked back to the argentinian border. The walk is easy with some elevation but easy. We took a path that was marked but differed a little with the gps track (maybe sometimes 300m away) and had only one easy riverford.<br /> <br /> Don't say to the argentinian customs that you were there because the mirador is officially in chile (200m after the border but without any puesto) just say that you walked to the refugio del Diablo which is on the path and 200m before the border. This refugio is very basic in metal and can help in case of rain but is not cosy at all.<br /> <br /> It is a total of 51kms and without any risk with the 2 borders but you maybe miss some other highlights of the real section 38.<br /> <br /> We did it in 1 day and a half.<br /> <br /> Comment Jan Dudeck: In recent years we and other hikers had no issues staying several days between the Chilean and Argentine border post. Some years ago the situation was different but both sides seams more relaxed now as long as you arrive on the other side with an exit stamp.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2019-Nov-10 / 1 day / Regular hiking route / NOBO / Lea Geibel, Kevin Moe <br /> <br /> We chose to do this hike in one long day, but were told we could camp near the Argentinian passport control, or in the sort of no-mans-land up the trail further between borders. Make sure you know what day the ferry is leaving before hiking or you could end up waiting in Candelaria a couple days! There aren't any stores in Candelaria, though we heard the lady at the campground might sell you some eggs or some other supplies.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2019-Nov-10 / Jan Dudeck<br /> <br /> The regular hiking and packrafting route passes the Chilean border control post in Candelario Mansilla and the Argentine border control post at the northern end of Lago el Desierto. These posts are 26 km apart (shortest distance) and if you do not walk into these two border controls posts yourself you will not get the required exit and entry stamp and become an “illegal immigrant” in the neighboring country. Don’t expect anything at the border itself or to get stopped by the police in the corresponding places.<br /> <br /> Be aware that the GPT route takes a significant detour between these border controls and crosses the actual border at an non-officil location at the Refugio el Diabolo. If you ask the border police for permission to cross the border in this location than your request will probably be denied so better don’t ask and just tell that you are on the way to the Chile/Argentina without specifying the exact route (when asking for your exit stamp).<br /> <br /> We have taken this non-official route twice in January 2017 and January 2019 without any issue.<br /> <br /> Worst case scenario is that you arrive with a several days old exit stamp on the other side and the border control police becomes upset and ask you to walk back on the shortest route (Option 1) to get a fresh stamp but I have not heard this happening in recent years.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> * Route description by Kara Davis after Season 2017/18:<br /> <br /> Notes to consider before beginning: At Calendario Mancilla, there is a Carabineros border control outpost. They asked that we fill out an expedition hiking form since the GPT follows a little used route. After discussing the route, the Carabineros informed us that entering Argentina at Lago Diablo, which is the current GPS route, is illegal. There is an alternate route, as described below, which remains in Chile that we decided to take instead. <br /> <br /> From the Chilean border control, follow the gravel road for a short distance and turn onto a trail marked by white sign with green lettering that says “Rio Obsticulos” as shown by the current GPS track (hikers may want to consider following the alternate listed at the end of this section description to and from Glacier O’Higgins because that trail is of much higher quality, more scenic, and more pleasant than the one that follows the bank of Lago O’Higgins/San Martin). <br /> <br /> After crossing the wooden bridge, hike along an ill-defined track that winds up and down the shoreline of Lago O’Higgins/San Martin to the land bridge north of Lago Chico. There is one residence as well as the occasional small camp spot along this route. <br /> <br /> There is another residence located on the east side of the land bridge, and hikers may pass through a wire gate on north side of the corral. A faint trail heads west and terminates at the bank of the narrow channel that connects Lago O’Higgins/San Martin and Lago Chico. A packraft is required to cross this channel. <br /> <br /> There is another residence on the west side of the channel. When the large ferry out of Villa O’Higgins is functional, it drops people off near this residence so they may hike the Sendero a Candelario Mancilla which is marked with orange and white blazes. This trail is well-formed and climbs the hill south of the residence. After exiting the treeline, be aware that there is limited camping for many kilometers. From this point, the route is very exposed and there is no cover until the route re-crosses Lago Chico. <br /> <br /> Glacier O’Higgins is beautiful; it is composed of glistening blue ice that terminates into the lake. Sadly, as the University of Valdevía has documented, the glacier is receding at an alarming rate and is in danger. As you enjoy the views, the trail continues to wind up and down above the lake but eventually disappears. Navigation is easy due to a lack of vegetation, but camping is poor due to exposure and the steep terrain. <br /> <br /> An orange refugio is located 2 km from Lago Chico on the glacial moraine. It is equipped with solar panels and is a good place to ride out a storm. The route continues down rocks and sand to the lake edge. The lake paddle is very pleasant, and depending on the season, it may involve weaving through icebergs to get to open water. Be careful not to get too close to the icebergs! Many of them are unstable and falling ice is common. <br /> <br /> Alternate:<br /> The GPS route indicates a northbound float on Lago Chico for approximately 4 km until take-out, but high winds forced us off of the lake early. We exited at the southern end of Lago Chico and from there faced a very difficult, brushy, and steep climb up to a trail at about elevation 750 m. Weather permitting, it may be easier to packraft all the way back to the land bridge between Lago Chico and Lago O’Higgins/San Martin. The trail on east side of the lake is well-formed, however, and there is one established campsite near a run down shack at the Lago Diablo turn off. <br /> <br /> In order to avoid the illegal Lago Diablo crossing into Argentina, just after passing a large wooden sign that says “Sendero de Chile,” turn off to the east on a well-formed track and climb up through the forest. The track is well-formed, easy to follow, and passes by several good places to camp. There are some orange and white blazes which are hard to spot because they mark the track in the opposite direction. There is a brief cross-country section over the pass through open tundra, but the trail reappears as the route renters the trees. There are a couple river crossing, and the trail ends at the gravel road. Follow the road north back to the Carabineros outpost to inform them you made it back safely and to obtain an exit stamp.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> *2023 / Anna &amp; Christopher<br /> In march and april the ferry that crosses Lago O'Higgins only leaves twice a week, which is mondays and thursdays at 8 a.m. (company Las Ruedas, reservation possible via whatsapp +56 966278836).<br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> * 2023 December / Anh<br /> <br /> Warning between exit &amp; entry:<br /> You have to reach the other border control within one day, since recently both border controls compare the data every day.<br /> If you do not arrive within one day, they (both border controls) will actually go looking for you.<br /> <br /> *Permit for Gpt38<br /> For glaciers Chico and O'Higgins you can apply for an &quot;Expedition Paper&quot; at the Chilean border control. However, this does not allow you to cross the border to Argentina.<br /> At the argentinian border control, you can ask for the route Lago del Desierto - Lago Diablo (with return / no border crossing).<br /> Conclusion: there is currently no standard procedure for GPT38 with border crossing. The two border controls check by radio whether all persons arrive on the other side within one day (and start search operations if necessary)!<br /> <br /> *2023 / Ondrej <br /> At he Argentinian police checkpoint I was actually asked why I had a three day old stamp. I wanted to avoid problems, so I said that I took a slow pace and did not walk on some days because it was raining constantly (which was true). I said that I built my tent, read a book and trying to wait out the rain. This (in a hindsight really poor) excuse was fortunately enough for the officer. He nodded and gave me the stamp. <br /> <br /> <br /> *2019 / Jan Dudeck<br /> Be aware that the GPT route takes a significant detour between these border controls and crosses the actual border at an non-officil location at the Refugio el Diabolo. If you ask the border police for permission to cross the border in this location than your request will probably be denied so better don’t ask and just tell that you are on the way to the Chile/Argentina without specifying the exact route (when asking for your exit stamp).<br /> We have taken this non-official route twice in January 2017 and January 2019 without any issue.<br /> Worst case scenario is that you arrive with a several days old exit stamp on the other side and the border control police becomes upset and ask you to walk back on the shortest route (Option 1) to get a fresh stamp but I have not heard this happening in recent years.<br /> <br /> <br /> *Comment Jan Dudeck: In recent years we and other hikers had no issues staying several days between the Chilean and Argentine border post. Some years ago the situation was different but both sides seams more relaxed now as long as you arrive on the other side with an exit stamp.<br /> <br /> <br /> *2019 / Arnaud et Adriane<br /> <br /> According to the team of our hotel in Villa O'Higgins, we officially have 24h to cross the border.(...) Don't say to the argentinian customs that you were there because the mirador is officially in chile (200m after the border but without any puesto) just say that you walked to the refugio del Diablo which is on the path and 200m before the border.<br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT38 - Glaciar Chico]]<br /> <br /> =Images=</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT12_(Rio_Rahue)&diff=112657 GPT12 (Rio Rahue) 2023-12-03T16:36:13Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Season 2023/24 */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> * 2023-Nov-23 to 2023-Nov-27 / 4 days / hiking / NOBO / Regular Route and Option 3 to return to Lonquimay / Ana &amp; William<br /> <br /> We just finished part of 12 and overall it is a lovely hike though we might potentially be a bit too early in the season depending on your risk threshold.<br /> <br /> Heading NOBO the small pass after laguna verde is fine. Little snow but not bad. Next pass is a bit tough, lots of snow walking and lots of risky parts where there are hidden rivers/water ways under the snow and where cliffs of snow had broken off but we managed by being careful and taking time to judge. RR-CC-A {12} [68.1/68.5+2.9] is not passable we went on the route to the left of it. Scary but fine, you have to make your own route since it’s completely snowed over. Downhill is fine, snow is only on the south face of the mountain. Next day we skipped the pass and did a plateau crossing based on advice from a local, it was lovely, the trail is east to follow most of the way then getting across the plateau you can take any possible direction, no wrong way and it connects to the 12-03c. Coming down on though there are two tracks at 12-03c marker. OH-TL-I {12-03A} [0.9+3.4] is not a route. At least not now. It’s basically a river gorge and it’s not possible unless you can surf down waterfalls, so we scaled up almost completely vertical to meet the CC route that runs parallel. Might be possible when there is less snow melt though. The CC route we took was almost a completely verticals decent for 800 meters and I must say a bit terrifying. Clambering down on your butt/downhill rock climbing is not the hard part but if you are not careful and you don’t judge your path every few meters you can find yourself looking down a minimum 30-200 meter drop, so it’s mentally scary not knowing if you will get to the bottom. But we did. I would not advise it, instead I’d advise continuing on 12-03 past the lakes back to the normal route. Took us almost 3 hours of being very careful though. We then got to the first river. Many locals we met before told us the only way to ranquil is the balsa, but we didn’t fully understand what they meant till we got to the river. They meant Bulsa Rahue which is on the way to lonquimay. The first main crossing at Ford {12} [45.4/1039] is very deep and very fast. For us as beginners a big no go, but I honestly think for advanced that would be tough as well if not only very dangerous. We then moved back to lonquimay where for the first part of the trail the river had flowed over so much that there was no trail but then eventually the trail gains significant elevation over the river and it’s fine. We asked others we ran into on the way and they confirmed that it’s too early to pass the rivers, but again depends on the hiker I’m sure.<br /> <br /> Comment Jan Dudeck December 2023: The best route to ascent from the Plateau is the trail in the South-West of the Plateau. That's the trail on which the horses are probably moved up and down. Starting with the Track Files 2024 the normal route up and down the Plateau will be OH-TL-V {12-03} [0.0+14.4]. I have cleaned up the routes on the North-Western edge of the Plateau. These exploration routes are best taken up and not down. Starting with the Track Files 2024 these exploration options are {12-03A}, {12-03B} and {12-03C} and all classified as Exploration Routes. There pieces of trails visible on satellite images but these trail disappear into a forest and it is unclear who maintained these routes are and if these are part of an alternative access to the Plateau.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2023-Jan / Martin&amp;Helena<br /> <br /> On regular route (SOBO) after puesto at 62.9, there is another puesto after approx 1km. It’s situated right on the road, soon after start of CC and before Gpt12-G End and it’s guarded by 4 or 5 agressive dogs. It was impossible to go around, so we were continuing with our trekking poles in front of us but dogs started to attack us and in the end I was bitten by one of them. The owner was there too but basically did nothing and dogs were absolutely out of her control.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2023-Mar-01 to 2023-Mar-05 / 5 days / Hiking / NOBO / RR / Iris, Alexis <br /> <br /> Arrived in Liucura late in the 28th Feb afternoon by hitchhiking our way from Lonquimay. There is also a bus that leaves at 7:30 PM. We shared our plans with the carabineros and asked for a place to pitch and he sent us near the river, after the truck &quot;parking&quot; (-38.64806, -71.08856 - really nixe and private spot). There are 3 shops in Liucura with supplies and we even had a nice diner for 6k each at the Hospedaje. <br /> Started early the next day with 12-P until 12-R. This way we avoided to climb any fence. There are plenty of paths going upward so we ended up not following the one from the tracks but something that joined the top quite directly. Then we enjoyed our walk on the ridge. We continued for a while and camped at Laguna Escondida. The marked point is in the wood, a bit far away from the water but wind protected. We decided to go much closer to the water and met our two first GPT hikers going southbound on the trail! <br /> <br /> The next day we took 12-H to avoid the aggressive dogs and then sticked to the RR until Camp {12} [51.6/1293]. The descent in the forest (RR-CC-A {12} [52.3/52.8+2.2]) was a bit painful as it is steep and without path. Following the OSM route is not better.<br /> <br /> Day 3, we followed the RR until Laguna Marinanqui (Lake, Camp {12} [33.9/1281]) where we camped. Then we met Reyes, a local from Peluhue who was waiting a group of &quot;gringo&quot; since the previous day. We spent the night here with him, tasting our first cooked pinones. <br /> <br /> On day 4, we hiked to Camp {12} [20.4/1625] (Banos Coyucos). All the fords of Rio Pulul were easy. On the trail we crossed a group of horseriders (Reyes' gringo) that got lost in the mountains and were on their way to the lake. Then we had our first pinata moment : we found an araucania and hit a ball with a branch for a rain of pinones. At the bayos, we met two persons preparing an asado for the group of riders and an other group of people just staying for a bath. Both pools are great, the second one (the smallest and a bit more down) is a bit warmer. We got invited and fed by the riders (smoked cerdo, tortillas al rescaldo, goat asado...)! They eventually left and we were alone in the bayos for the night. <br /> <br /> On Day 5, we hiked until the junction with GPT11 but without taking options 1 or 2 following the advices of the previous hikers. Then we directly continued to GPT11.<br /> On a side note, on most of the section, you will walk on well marked trails that are easy to follow. It contains multiple extremely scenics moments, at least one highlight per day (several for the last one). Definitely worth it to hike! There are no more tabanos at this period of the year, but indeed many wasps ! <br /> <br /> <br /> *2023-Feb-12 to 2023-Feb-16 / 4.5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR / Natalie+Tomàš<br /> <br /> Combined 10+11+12 continued mid-day from 11.<br /> Started mid-day at Banos de Pelehue, Tomáš explored the banos, there was a pool that had some cold water flowing to it, which is diverted, so the temperature should be nicely warm. However, it resulted in smelly hands for two days despite soap. The first hot springs waypoint is wrong but the location is very scenic. We continued to Banos Coyucos for the night and luckily arrived just before a storm hit.<br /> The Banos Coyucos were not &quot;great&quot;. The first one with the A-frame roof is not that warm, more like stale bathwater, but the second further down with only a partial roof is much better. We spent the stormy night in the second one so more heat would have been nice but I am sure it's a good temperature for day time bathing.<br /> <br /> Day2<br /> Late start but great trail from the Banos to the marshy flats. I met Rosè from the puesto right at the beginning of the flats, she was very easy to get along with and had a good sense of humor. I would recommend looking for her if you were in need of help. She also helped show me how to avoid the marsh by sticking slightly high on the side of the hill, there was a little bit of a trail. The next plateau up was forgettable, accidentally walked along variant A for too long before dropping down to the RR. The RR is much faster than the side hill that hops from one puesto to the next on variant A. The rest of the way to Laguna Marinanque was enjoyable, definitely leave your sandals on at the bottom for the multiple river crossings. <br /> At this time of year Marinanque was still boggy but caused no problem's. However, I would be careful at the Northside not to get stuck in the bog, it looked very deep. We slept at the abandoned puesto 37.7 (No Water).<br /> <br /> Day3<br /> Fast and lovely trail to camp51.6. After then and up the steep grass hill it is CC. I wouldn't rely on the GPX here as it i basically just straight up. The last water source before the hill 52.2 makes a nice rest. Just to clarify once again, there is no water at the first plateau; camp54.5. However, the water at the small lakes on the main plateau did not look awful, just goose poo around.<br /> Up and over the main/last pass is straightforward but the other side is still boggy. The first camp was not good but if you walked up the bog directly on top of it there was a source of clean water. We slept at the second camp; 59.5, which felt the best of all three, there was water, a little muddy but the third camp looked dry. <br /> <br /> Day4. <br /> You can make a small short cut on a wide &quot;road-trail&quot; just before the RR turns off from the main trail towards puesto 61.8. Crossing the bottom valley here is still very boggy. The lady at puesto 62.9 was very welcoming, offering food/chocolate/coffee. She had some angry dogs but they behaved well once she called them. The next puesto up from her had the dogs that bit a past GPT hiker. They were indeed the aggressive type but the lady tied the worst one up in order to let us pass. If she hadn't we were going to skirt around on the right into the forest to hopefully avoid them and or you could descent back down the hill and go far left.<br /> Like Veronica said there is some water at -38.41178, -70.99125, not tasty but not filtering it had no consequences. At the intersection of RR and J I met some friendly carabinieros that were going into Argentina to fetch some Chilean horses, they were taking on a good trail. From the water source I just described and towards Maximiliano's puesto I did not enjoy the trail, didn't make much sense and felt I was zig zaging in the valley for no good reason. <br /> Day got better once meeting &quot;Maxi&quot; and his son. Jan, if you are reading this Maximiliano says hi and has only good things to say about you. I told him you were off in the mountains somewhere but hopefully will come back to visit again. He wanted to make sure people were good to us and luckily we told him we only had pleasant encounters. His neighbor down the road (Seguro?) was also extremely friendly. The rest of the way to Laguna Verde was fast, a mixture of old roads and easy trails and a CC bit. The first puesto at Laguna Verde was abandoned and we slept in the grass beside it. It was very windy and the water in the lake was very dirty but luckily we found a small dribble of flowing water near the puesto. In the morning everything was covered in frost and slightly frozen, our first freeze.<br /> <br /> Day5<br /> Our final day was easy, the ridge got a little tedious (but was surprisingly beautiful in parts) and I was very happy it wasn't a hot day because otherwise it would have been very dry and uncomfortable. We managed to avoid all barbed wire fences (even though they could be jumped because 3/4 of the fence is cow panels and just the top two lines are barbed). When you are walking down from the trail from the ridge instead of turning left and jumping over your first fence we just went straight down towards the main road (aim for this open gate -38.63510, -71.09298), it is on the first dirt road marked on OSM branching from the main road when going into Chile from the border after Liucura. There were a couple big dogs at the end but they were locked up. Only 1km of road walking back to Liucura, past a nice looking restaurant, and or you could just start hitching to Lonquimay if desired. <br /> We agree that you could technically resupply in Liucura, it was a very happening border stop with fruit and vegetables, sold out bread and then all the other basics- but no canister fuel obviously. <br /> The bus situation from here is confusing as the shop owners and locals all say different things. What I gathered was that there was a bus going to Lonquimay at ~7, ~12 and ~4pm but I don't think it runs every day. Hitching to Lonquimay looked easy but we hitched to Icalma (more difficult) even though supposedly there was a bus to Icalma at 730/8/830?pm. Once again I don't think the bus runs everyday or weekends, possibly only Mon- Wed- Friday.<br /> In Icalma that was the case, if going to Lonquimay or Melipeuco there was only a bus Mon,Wed &amp; Friday. Sadly I forget the exact times but I remember the first bus was very early, leaving ~6am and then a bus to lonquimay at 3pm. Icalma had lots of little minimarkets and cheap accomodation, slept in cabana for 20mil/night (10mil each)<br /> <br /> Notes:<br /> <br /> -If I was to do this trip again I wish I had more time to spend at the puestos.<br /> <br /> -The picoñes are falling, also wish I doubled up on fuel in order to cook them. We tried mashed picoñes in Icalma and they were delicious!<br /> <br /> -The wasps have replaced horseflies, never got sting but got bit. <br /> <br /> -Many of the trails this time of year were &quot;dirt-dust&quot; but on the bright side most bogs were avoidable. <br /> <br /> -No problems with water, only had to carry extra water on the last day after the final water stop at 87.6. <br /> <br /> -luckily only had a few bad days of smoke, mainly when we were close to Trapa Trapa. <br /> <br /> <br /> *2023-Jan-18 to 2023-Jan-21 / 4 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR starting from the termas de pelehue / Will <br /> <br /> I merged onto section 12 at the termas de pelehue, where I was immediately greeted by a group of 20ish condors taking off from a patch of grass in the valley. My pace got even slower, watching them fly low around me.<br /> <br /> I went on to camp at the Banos Coyucos, easily my favorite hot springs so far. Perfect temperature, clean, but still felt natural. There were two groups of Chilean hikers there, all super friendly and generous.<br /> <br /> The next day of walking through the valleys was beautiful and pretty fast. A bit before the big climb I had my first unpleasant encounter, with a group heading down the road by ATV. The leader stopped and asked if I had authorization to hike there, I said that I didn't know that I needed it. He seemed to think that was obviously a lie. He became somewhat friendly once I explained my plans and after discovering that I was foreign. He gave me some direction advice then set off. In hindsight I figure he must have been a landowner. I did see quite a few littered beer cans afterwords, maybe he was trying to prevent that.<br /> <br /> The steep climb was tough, and I ended up camping pretty late up top. In terms of water I only saw a few muddy puddles though I didn't look very hard. There were a few ponds the next morning just over the hill. <br /> <br /> The rest of the section was easier than I expected, and not so interesting to me. I should have carried more water on the final 20km. If you want to skip the barbed wire fences you'd have to take variant R at the end of the ridge walk. I thought I could skip them with variant S but most of them were before the turnoff so I ended up following the regular route the whole way. Thankfully they were solid and pretty easy to climb.<br /> <br /> No luck hitching out of Liucura so I spent the night. There were no buses on Sunday but someone at my hostel gave me a ride to Lonquimay the next day. If you're continuing on then Liucura could work for a basic resupply, but I'm planning on relaxing a bit then skipping ahead. See busesbiobio.cl for the bus schedule out of Lonquimay.<br /> <br /> I'm still one day behind the same set of footprints I've been following all the way since section 7. I guess I'll never catch up.<br /> <br /> <br /> *2023-Jan-15 to 2023-Jan-18 / 4 days / Hiking / SOBO / Termas de Pelehue (junction GPT 11, option 1 and GPT 12) - Liucura / Anna &amp; Christopher <br /> <br /> We connected section 11 and 12 and started at Termas de Pelehue around km 9.<br /> The first day the path was easy to find most of the time and the views were great. The canyon to Laguna Marinanqui is very beautiful. We camped after the last rivercrossing before the Laguna.<br /> <br /> To path around the Laguna involved some bushbashing and muddy ground.<br /> Until the CC ascent the path was good. The ascent itself is pretty tiring. We could not find water at the point indicated by Véronica so we continued until the first small Laguna on the plateau. That was a great spot to camp and the Laguna has clear water.<br /> <br /> The following part is not hard to navigate and continues with spectacular views.<br /> Ascending the next hill at appr. km 67 we followed a good animal path on towards the west of the hill (instead of the CC part of the RR), next to an accesible creek.<br /> Easy trails the rest of the day. We camped at the water waypoint [78.4/1775] between Laguna Escondida and Laguna verde.<br /> <br /> The next part is great and easy until towards the end of the ridge after the last ascent, where the path finding gets harder with some bush bashing parts. On the last kilometers we descended until the main road to avoid climbing barbed wire fences.<br /> The shopowner of the resupply in Liucura offered us to camp in his garden.<br /> The next morning we hitchhiked to Lonquimay. The buses from Lonquimay to Temuco leave at 8 am and 12:30 pm, not sure if there is also a later bus.<br /> <br /> <br /> *2022-Dec-25 to 2022-Dec-30 / 5.5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR (combined with GPT11 via GPT11-02) / Véronica <br /> <br /> Route: Junction at km 12.9 where GPT11-02 meets with GPT12 - Baños Coyucos - Laguna Marinanqui - Pehuenche Extortioner valley - Laguna Escondida - Liucura <br /> <br /> Absolutely beautiful section. Really loved the cross-country bits on high plateaus and ridges, amazing views. I did not have any navigation issues. I met no one 4 days in a row. <br /> <br /> I connected GPT11 Option 2 with GPT12, so I missed the Pelehue hot springs. I did find a good creek at the &quot;water&quot; waypoint at 15.9 km, not dry like what Veronika and Jo found last year. I really enjoyed the camp at Baños Coyucos in an araucaria forest, and the hot springs there were great too! Perfect temperature, and not as dirty as I thought they might be. <br /> <br /> Lots of boggy cow pastures along RR-TL-V {12} [25.6+07], had trouble finding any sort of trail there. Enjoyed the trail along Río Pulul in the canyon with all the fords. All the river crossings were easy, and I found many lovely potential camp spots on that stretch. <br /> <br /> Just north of Laguna Marinanqui (where you have the option to take 12-C), there is a large marsh to contour like others have mentioned. I managed to cross without getting all muddy by closely following the regular route. <br /> The trail kind of disappears after the junction with 12-E, but following the GPS it's not too hard to reach the base of the big CC climb to the high plateau. This climb is steep, but not dangerous - you climb on grass and dirt (no scree). There was no water at the &quot;Water ?&quot; waypoint, but I found a hidden spring nearby at S 38° 21.247', W 071° 04.140'. There are also shallow lagunas up on the plateau you could get water from. After the passes coming downhill into the Pehuenche Extortioner valley, the three campsites in a row there were quite waterlogged from snowmelt. The trail was a river in a couple places there too. Lots of squishy walking, wouldn't be ideal to camp there right now. <br /> <br /> The next CC stretch after the Extortioner valley is awesome on a rounded ridgetop. There is a nice meadow and good water source shortly before reaching the next pass. From this pass all the way to Maximiliano's puesto is a good horse trail, not cross-country. <br /> <br /> After the &quot;water&quot; waypoint at 87.6 km, after Laguna Verde, there is no more water until Liucura, so I filled up in order to dry camp on the ridge further along. All the subsequent CC stretches until Liucura have paths running along most of them, makes walking easier :) The final ridge walk starting at km 95.3 is fantastic, and there's lots of sheltered areas up there too where you could camp if you have enough water. <br /> <br /> I followed the regular route all the way to Liucura (ended up climbing over 4 different barbed wire fences once I was off the ridge). Hitched into Lonquimay and will be skipping down to Section 16.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2022-Feb-14 to 2022-Feb-15 + 2022-Mar-07 to 2022-Mar-10 / Hiking / SOBO / RR / Veronika &amp; Jo <br /> <br /> The first day we continued from GPT11, starting at Termas de Pelehue (where you can camp, though you have to search around for non-sulfury water pushing up through the meadows). We continued along the border with Argentina. Great all-around views, decent trail instead of CC most of the time, no water at S 38° 09.380', W 071° 01.300' &lt;- in agreement with Molly and Melissa.<br /> <br /> We escaped to Ranquil in the south to resupply, and got back three weeks later, taking the afternoon bus from Lonquimay (mon-wed-fri, bus early the morning and in the afternoon). Slept in the refugio in the valley east of Ranquil. The road between Ranquil and this eastern valley is almost fully MR instead of TL.<br /> <br /> Continued RR until the Pehuenche Extortioner valley, but took optionals 12-H and 12-5 to arrive at Pehuenco in time to take the bus Friday morning at 08:00 (also mon-wed-fri) to make sure we made it to our plane in Puerto Montt on Sunday. We skipped Laguna Escondida and Laguna Verde with pain in our hearts :(<br /> <br /> We saw the camp site at 12-H and asked around in the roundabout way (&quot;do you know a camp site?&quot;) standing next to it, but no positive answer came. We camped at the pass before Maximiliano's puesto instead, where there is a little water turning into the usual cow meadow. Met Maximiliano there :)<br /> <br /> <br /> *2022-Feb-21 / 5 days / Hiking / NOBO / RR + OH 02 / Romain <br /> <br /> Regular Hiking Path :<br /> - There are a lot of Araucaria trees. I managed to save 2 days of food just by harvesting piñones on the floor following the path. I would recommend to not rely on it because it depends on the period, but there was plenty.<br /> <br /> - the path after Laguna Marinanqui wasn't easy to follow because it was like a swamp but once I manage to cross this humid part it was all good<br /> <br /> - Camp on Ford {12} [32.6/1299] (Rio Pulul), great place with lot of space, grass, dry wood, almost no wind when I camped there, I really appreciated this place <br /> <br /> - I did the multiple fords without removing my water shoes because there are close and it worth it<br /> <br /> - Camp {12} [17.0/1794] : I had to stay one day there due to raining conditions. Looking at the places after, it's to my mind the last place to camp before starting going uphill, it would be too windy and too cold to camp farther. During the rainy day the temperature dropped to less than 10° I think, I had to stay in my duvet. And during the night I got ice on my tent, it wasn't extreme but it was good to be well equipped. <br /> <br /> - Option 11-02 and 11-02B to reach back the regular route was the best part I did of my entire trek, with a condor flying 10-15m above me, spectacular landscapes, ... I really recommend it but only in stable good conditions because it was really really windy, and going northbound otherwise 11-02B would be very demanding because of the sand.<br /> <br /> - the hot spring {11-02B} [1.2/2113] and more generally the place with vapors and boiling water at some places and many condors flying around you is very impressive<br /> <br /> - Nobo : Demanding clampering, in good weather only : everything is in the title and the other commentaries well describe it. I hadn't felt really in danger following the track but I was much tense and aware of everything. It's definitely not a good idea to be there not in good conditions. And you need to have time to do it in one time, there is no place adapted to camp until the pass {11} [27.6/2174] and event just after it's still much wind, and at some point the earth/sand soil make you hike very slowly. I thank the people who wants through before me, their tracks were much helpful to see the way and to not slip in the sand. Except these points the place is beautiful and I appreciated it a lot in the continuity of the part before.<br /> <br /> <br /> Option 12-02 :<br /> <br /> - 11-05G : the road from Lonquimay start with concrete and become gravel at a certain point, but lot of people use it and without hitchhiking many proposed me to take me<br /> <br /> - transition 11-05G to 12-02 : the road leading to the ferry is really smaller than the main one, I missed it because I wasn't enough attentive to that<br /> <br /> - Ferry : the indicated opening time are : 8:30-17:30 from Monday to Friday, 8:00-10:00/16:00-18:00 on saturday ; I arrived there at 13:30 on the Monday and there was nobody to move it, fishermen told me to wait for a car but they seem to say there should be one until 1 or 2 hours so I crossed the river going up, water reached my hips and I arrived in a farmer property, people were very friendly, but should I do it again I would cross going down (easier to reach + no problem with entering a property)<br /> <br /> - 12-02 continues by crossing the river on a beautiful wood hanging bridge (12-02A continues straight), I appreciated this path with plenty of rabbits, aracauria trees and beautiful landscapes. I slept close to the river in a flat field with apple and peach trees. It seemed people are used to camp there with lot of campfire marks, really windy the day I camp there<br /> <br /> <br /> *2022-Jan-10 / 6 days / Hiking / NOBO / Molly og Melissa<br /> <br /> Amazing section with great views. Definitely don't skip the two high parts unless the weather is bad. We didn't find it to be dangerously steep except for a few metres on the descent before Laguna Marinanqui, which were uncomfortable.<br /> Tábanos were better than expected, it was pretty windy. We also brought a fly swatter. It was very effective for killing those who sticked around during breaks, and gave a lot of satisfaction<br /> <br /> We took the alternative route to the east right out of Liucura due to the notes of other people. Shortly after, we saw a path climbing the mountain, and took that. Big mistake - the path disappeared quickly and left us to climb steeply through dense bamboo. We learned the lesson of staying close to the route, and this payed off. Often, when the route is marked as CC, a path exists that follows the route closely.<br /> On one of the CC sections we met a man with his animals, who wanted to know what we were doing. He said that we needed a permission from someone in Liucura to be there, and that many people came by and disturbed the animals. When we apologized and said we didn't know and that we'd go on to Laguna Verde he didn't pursue the subject and seemed friendly enough.<br /> We ended up camping on the beach by Laguna Escondida.<br /> On the descent from there to the Pehuenche Extortioner valley we passed a puesto not marked on the GPS. It seemed empty, and the gravel road was right next to it. There were some very aggressive dogs that we gave a shock, though, they quickly surrounded us. The owner got them calmed down a bit, but one of them to still took a bite of my sleeping mat on the bottom of my bag while we were calmly talking to the owner. <br /> After the Pehuenche Extortioner valley you climb a pretty tall mountain pass to an amazing high plain. The descent from here is, as others have written, very steep, not too difficult but definitely better down than up. From there you have a very nice easy trail with good views almost all the way to Laguna Marinanqui, but at the river crossing and every time there is a puesto of trail the trail diverges, and you often have to follow the less obvious trail, so it pays off to look at the GPS often.<br /> After Laguna Marinanqui we just kept our wading shoes on for the six river crossings, it worked very well. None of the crossings were difficult in any way.<br /> We camped at the Coyuco hot springs. It's a nice enough camp site with a little bench and table under the Aucaria trees, but not too many big sites for the tent. The hot springs are a little bellow, covered by some planks. They are pretty dirty but a perfect temperature, no views either.<br /> <br /> The last big ascent nearing the Argentine border was amazing and should definitely not be skipped unless the weather is bad! There is a small CC section, but most of the way through the pass there is a nice trail - stick to the route and you will find it! It lasts all the way to the gravel road to Ranquil. There is a boarder post, and a pretty flat grassy area where it would be possible to camp on the Argentinian side of the border, next to a stream. In general, plenty of water all the way to the second hot springs. From there, nothing until you reach the river in the bottom. The hot springs are in an amazing area, and would be a beautiful campsite with great views, bit requires clear and calm water. We didn't see the hot springs ourselves, but we met some Chilean tourists who liked them. <br /> <br /> Water:<br /> Generally, water is plentiful, but with some comments. We started from Liucura on midday on a very hot day, and having read about plentiful water we brought a liter each. However, there was nothing until the first waypoint, which we couldn't reach, so we ended up going down to the river in the eastern valley and camping there.<br /> Furthermore, on the ascent from the Pehuenche Extortioner valley where there are three campsites on a row, the first didn't have water and the second only very little.<br /> On the high plain where it's marked water? there was water, but very still and dirty. Would only drink it if very desperate. Shortly after joining the path after the descent there are very nice streams.<br /> We arrived in Ranquil in the afternoon on a Sunday, and hitched to Lonquimay - very challenging though, with three rides and some walking in between<br /> <br /> <br /> *2021-Nov-23 / Hiking / NOBO / RR / Marc Anthony<br /> <br /> After i finished GPT 3 i headed down south to GPT 12 in order to hike the next couple of groups in a northbound direction since it’s more suitable to hike from down here this time of year compared to the more northern sections<br /> <br /> It was love at first sight! I was so thrilled to escape the exposed terrain of the north and come down here to this beautiful part of the country, where you can enjoy the nice shade from the Arucania trees. Got the bus from Lonquimay to Liucura at 14:00 and started my trip on the optional route east of the RR to avoid previously mentioned barbed wire fence.<br /> Later I climbed up to the mountain ridge and followed the RR.<br /> <br /> After my first night I was woken up by the sound of a bunch of cows running around my tent, and a stuck my head out to find a Pehuenche man on a horse wearing a balaclava, looking at me. Was very surprised at first but he was a nice guy who was just curious about me. We took some photos of each other and I got to ride around on his horse.<br /> I general I found water to be plenty, the weather good and the trail in good condition. There are although some very steep sections every now and then where you have to be careful. I was also hit by a hail storm during a mountain pass but luckily it quickly passed.<br /> <br /> At laguna Marinanqui towards the end of the section I met a group of Chileans from Victoria who were out on a weekend fishing trip. We drank a few beers together while catching some salmon in the Laguna and after i joined on the walk back to Ranquil. We took GPT option 1 to skip the nothern hump. And on arrival at Ranquil they gave me a ride back to Lonquimay. Great fun!<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> *Feb 2020-Feb / Hiking / NOBO / Lauric<br /> <br /> Took optional #002 east of regular trail to avoid climbing over barbed wire. It is an easy road. Then we climbed up on the ridge with optional #003. Not exactly on the track but we found a trail going up. On the ridge it's amazing with 360 views. Easy walking too. Optional down in the valley would be easier but less rewarding. Continued our way to the pass 1920m (after taking mate at Maximiliano's puesto). At the pass we left the regular trail to end up on a descending road. Easy descent to optional 12-04-#001 and easy walk in the valley. From there we avoided the extortioner and up to the second pass (2120m). The views are amazing. Very steep and CC descent. Wouldn't have liked to go up this part. From the pass to laguna Marinanqui is pretty boring but easy part. Laguna is very beautiful and a great place to camp. North of laguna is ankle deep in cowshit. We got up by the river to the termas. There are 2 pools. Then we headed town to Ranquil to finish the section. Carabineros let us camp on their field. Bus to Lonquimay Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 6AM and 5PM in front of the police station.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2020-Jan-24 / 3.5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR mostly / Frank <br /> <br /> At the high lakes I continued on RR-CC-I@12-57.1+7.5, a spectacular traverse but at the end there is a very steep &amp; slow descent on rock, scree &amp; sand. I would consider this descent to be dangerous &amp; best avoided by taking the Pehuenche Extortioner variant. After Maximilian's Puesto I took OH-MR-V@12-03-#001out to the road then into Liucura. At least 2 places to stay there, they both have a restaurant. Also a cafe &amp; 3 shops, you can resupply easily.<br /> <br /> <br /> *2020-Jan-23 / Hiking / SOBO / RR Ending at ranquil carabineros / Ty &amp; America <br /> <br /> Just hiked to The hot spring from the top of section 11. Not much to report. Hot springs were luke warm. There’s some sort of makeshift hut covering them. Nice camp there though. We got a hitch when nearing the carabineros to Lonquimay. Wouldn’t usually count on this though. Definitely middle of nowhere. Apparently the bus comes at 5.<br /> <br /> <br /> *2020-Jan-17 / 3.5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR + OH 03 / Martina &amp; Ivo <br /> <br /> Start: Termas de Pelehue, End: Primary road towards Lonquimay<br /> Amazing section. The Termas de Pelehue are gone due to the lack of maintenance. The second hot springs the same, but the fumaroles above are quite impressive! The third hot springs down in the valley are great, there are several pools just below the camp. After the second pass (2'180) we decided not to do the investigation route as it looked pretty uncomfortable to us. The descent after the third pass (1'920) to Maximiliano's puesto was a nice trail, not at all CC. There our longing for a beer was so huge that we took the optional route 12-03-#001 through the beautiful araucaria valley. Believe it or not, shortly before arriving at the primary road there came a bus, taking us to the junction, from where a connecting bus to Lonquimay was leaving, everything within 10 minutes :-) Excellent resupply and accommodation in Lonquimay, funny town.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 15-Jan-2020 / 3.5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR / Maddie &amp; Tom <br /> <br /> Spectacular section, some of the best scenery we have seen so far! Some of the ascents and descents are quite steep and technical. There is lots of loose rock and no easy track to follow. It was quite windy and all the high passes are dangerous in poor weather. The trail is also overgrown and difficult to follow in some sections. This makes it slower than you might expect, however it is perfectly doable. Good resupply in Licura at the end of the section, as well as nice places to stay (around 20000 pesos for a double). <br /> <br /> <br /> * 9-Jan-2020 / 5 days (GPT11 + GPT12) / Hiking / SOBO / RR + OH 2 Matus &amp; Anna<br /> <br /> We combined sections 11 and 12. It took us 5 days including one zero because of weather. Patagonia showed us bit of it's potential in these two sections. <br /> All walked trails were in good condition and CC sections pretty easy to navigate. In the sadle of section 11, because of strong wind, poor visibility and fresh snow and ice we were forced to take optional to the valley. There is a big snowfield, I don't recomend sliding on it all the way. It the lower parts there were big holes into the stream. <br /> From Ranquil we took optional #002 because we didn't want to climb back up. Uphill is more a minor road, downhill nice trail. <br /> After a laguna we took a optional to the Pass 2180 and road around the Pehuenche Extortioner. We needed to get down from elevation ASAP bacause of wind. We passed puesto early in the morning and no one was around. After rainy day everything above 2000m was white. We took trail to pass 1920m which was just with bit of fresh snow and then took minor road #001 down to valley. So I have no idea about the rest of the trail.<br /> Edit: adding a picture from the last sadle 1920m, we did after &quot;rainy&quot; day.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2019-Dec-06 / 10 days / Hiking / NOBO / RR from Liucura without the northern slope, so we went directly to Ranquil from S38°12.723' W71°05.208'/ Sophie &amp; Hendrik <br /> <br /> In total we were 11days on the trail, of which we spend 1.5 in the tent due to bad weather. The route is free except for one fort, but there is a workaround. Also we had a couple of navigation problems, which cost us several hours. See recent alerts and suggestions.<br /> <br /> We liked: The quickly chang landscape and its huge variety, beautiful cinematic views, funny animals, that water was always available, bathing in the rivers, beautifully blooming plants.<br /> <br /> We did not like so much: The problems we encountered due to navigation mistakes, the hailstorm on the mountain ridge, beercans that people drop on the paths.<br /> <br /> We bluntly hated: The amount of horse flies. In the northern part we were not able to make one step without having at least five buzzing arround our faces. This army of blood suckers was sent by a source of pure evil to annoy hikers.<br /> <br /> The following is a chronological accumulation of all our observations made in the last 11 days. Note for navigation difficulties that we walked northbound.<br /> <br /> - The most southern CC part direclty north of Liucura is now bordered by fences. You have to follow the path and then go left through a gate. The gate on the western fence is some 80m further south than you would expect. It was locked and we had to carefully (barbed wire) climb over it. It might be a lot easier to take the optional route in the east to get up the ridge.<br /> <br /> -We were unable to find and follow the path at S38°24.881' W71°00.281' down to the valley. We endet up on a path a little further south. However, this path starts to lead further and further south, so that at some point we startet to ge back to the original path through the woods, which did cost several hours.<br /> <br /> - Getting up the mountain at S38°24.450 W71°01.871' we startet ca 300m further north than indicated by the CC route due to fences and rivercrossing opportunities in the valley. (We thought CC means come up with your own route anyway.) At ca 1720m of altitude, still 300m north of the indicated route we found a good looking path leading up the mountain and followed it. At its end we assumed it would not be a bad idea to continue from here on in north west direction up the mountain. We now know it was a very bad idea. We ended up in a very uncomfortable and seriously dangerous climbing situation in which we really did not want to be. So our advice: stick to the route here!<br /> <br /> - The Ford-125 (S38°20.908 W71°09.294') looks impassable right now. You can avoid it by using an improvised bridge about 120m further west.<br /> <br /> - At roughly S38°17.091' W71°01.354' the path broke away into a very steep descent. It is passable, but also slippery and includes a certain risk of which you should be aware.<br /> <br /> - The daily bus out of Ranquil does not stop at the busstation because it is too large to reverse there. You have to walk down the street ca. 2km to where a bridge crosses the river. The bus reverses here and does not go up further up the road. Right now it stops there at 6 in the morning.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> Ranquil - no shop but there are families who sold us sopaipillas<br /> <br /> Lonquimay - Supermercado Espinoza next to the bus stop has most things. A little shop on the left hand shortly after the bus terminal when walking from the bus terminal towards the center has gas. The shop has different air mattresses, clothes and some outdoorsy things in the windows. There's also a ferretería that might have. Several accommodation options. <br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> *To Liucura<br /> Updated Jan 2022:<br /> <br /> Bus from Temuco to Liucura (goes all the way to Icalma) Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 7:30am (+ 15:55?), 5 hours of travel. Leaves Liucura at the bus terminal next to COPEC at 12.<br /> Also busses from Lonquimay to Liucura Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 15 and Tuesday+Thursday at 14<br /> <br /> Bus from Temuco to Lonquimay every day - Monday-Saturday 15:55, Sunday 17:30<br /> There may even be busses from Santiago to Lonquimay<br /> <br /> *Ranquil<br /> Updated 2022, Jan<br /> Bus from Ranquil to Lonquimay (on Mon, Wed and Fri at 7:30am from the village<br /> <br /> Bus from Lonquimay to Ranquil Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 15:00 - bus terminal next to COPEC<br /> Buses to Troyo leave every day and can drop you off at the crossing to Ranquil, about 30-40 km, but hitching might still be difficult from here<br /> <br /> *If skipping section 13-15:<br /> We went from Pucón to Temuco, but it seems to be the long way around. It might be worth it to ask around in Pucón whether there is a rural bus to Curacautin, and from there to Lonquimay, as that seems way faster on the map - alternatively it could be possible hitching this route.<br /> <br /> *Lonquimay<br /> Update 2022, Feb<br /> <br /> Bus from Santiago - Terminal Sur to Lonquimay leaving at 21:40 and arriving around 8:00<br /> <br /> Company : Jet Sur<br /> <br /> $26.000 for semi-cama<br /> <br /> Commentaries : really comfortable, nice and professional people, USB-plugs, I took it on Sunday night, it was the only one on Sunday, I don't know if there are some on the other days<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT12 - Río Rahue]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> [[File:GPT_6_Guallali_108664133.jpg|thumb|center|1100px|Araucarias on GPT12]]<br /> [[File:GPT_6_Guallali_108664142.jpg|thumb|center|1100px]]<br /> [[File:GPT_6_Guallali_108664125.jpg|thumb|center|1100px]]<br /> [[File:GPT_6_Guallali_108664136.jpg|thumb|center|1100px]]<br /> [[File:GPT_6_Guallali_108664138.jpg|thumb|center|1100px]]<br /> <br /> [[category:Greater Patagonian Trail]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT80P_(Glaciar_Exploradores)&diff=112656 GPT80P (Glaciar Exploradores) 2023-12-03T15:45:34Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Season 2023/24 */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> * Comment Jan Dudeck December 2023: The access to Glaciar Exploradores has been suspended due to structural changes of the glaciar that can lead to sudden collapses and GLOF's.<br /> <br /> https://www.eldesconcierto.cl/bienes-comunes/2023/11/04/baja-en-el-turismo-aventura-cierran-senderismo-en-glaciar-exploradores-por-perdida-de-hielo.html#:~:text=Conaf%20cerr%C3%B3%20de%20forma%20definitiva%20el%20sector%20del,grietas%20que%20presentan%20un%20riesgo%20para%20la%20actividad.<br /> <br /> https://aysenjourneys.com/blog/triste-noticia-glaciar-exploradores-cierra-sus-puertas-al-visitante<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT80P - Valle Exploradores]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT78&diff=112655 GPT78 2023-12-03T15:40:04Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT78H (Volcan Yates)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT78H (Volcan Yates)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT75&diff=112654 GPT75 2023-12-03T15:39:21Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT75P (Rio Frio)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT75P (Rio Frio)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT74&diff=112653 GPT74 2023-12-03T15:38:48Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT74P (Rio Yelcho)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT74P (Rio Yelcho)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT73&diff=112652 GPT73 2023-12-03T15:38:14Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT73P (Lago Yelcho)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT73P (Lago Yelcho)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT65&diff=112651 GPT65 2023-12-03T15:37:19Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT65H (Ferry Puerto Williams)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT65H (Ferry Puerto Williams)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT60&diff=112650 GPT60 2023-12-03T15:36:24Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT60H (Ferry Porvenir)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT60H (Ferry Porvenir)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT37&diff=112649 GPT37 2023-12-03T15:35:40Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT37H (Peninsula La Florida)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT37H (Peninsula La Florida)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT36&diff=112648 GPT36 2023-12-03T15:35:00Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT36H (Ruta De Los Pioneros)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT36H (Ruta De Los Pioneros)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT34&diff=112647 GPT34 2023-12-03T15:34:22Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT34H (Ferry Chile Chico)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT34H (Ferry Chile Chico)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT33&diff=112646 GPT33 2023-12-03T15:33:15Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT33H (Torres de Avellano)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT33H (Torres de Avellano)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT31&diff=112645 GPT31 2023-12-03T15:32:40Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT31H (Valle Simpson)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT31H (Valle Simpson)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT30&diff=112644 GPT30 2023-12-03T15:32:00Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT30H (Coyhaique)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT30H (Coyhaique)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT29&diff=112643 GPT29 2023-12-03T15:31:25Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT29H (Rio Cisnes)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT29H (Rio Cisnes)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT28&diff=112642 GPT28 2023-12-03T15:30:56Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT28H (La Tapera)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT28H (La Tapera)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT27&diff=112641 GPT27 2023-12-03T15:30:22Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT27H (Lago Palena)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT27H (Lago Palena)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT25&diff=112640 GPT25 2023-12-03T15:29:47Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT25H (Aldea Escolar)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT25H (Aldea Escolar)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT24&diff=112639 GPT24 2023-12-03T15:29:11Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT24H (PN Los Alerces Tierra)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT24H (PN Los Alerces Tierra)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT17&diff=112638 GPT17 2023-12-03T15:28:19Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT17H (Liquine)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT17H (Liquine)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT82&diff=112637 GPT82 2023-12-03T15:27:42Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT82P (Aysen Glacier Trail)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT82P (Aysen Glacier Trail)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT81&diff=112636 GPT81 2023-12-03T15:27:09Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT81P (Glaciar Leones)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT81P (Glaciar Leones)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT80&diff=112635 GPT80 2023-12-03T15:26:38Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT80P (Glaciar Exploradores)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT80P (Glaciar Exploradores)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=92&diff=112634 92 2023-12-03T15:26:02Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT92P (Glacier Steffens)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT92P (Glacier Steffens)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT91&diff=112633 GPT91 2023-12-03T15:25:27Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT91P (Istmo Ofqui)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT91P (Istmo Ofqui)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT90&diff=112632 GPT90 2023-12-03T15:24:40Z <p>Jandudeck: Página redirigida a GPT90P (Volcan Hudson)</p> <hr /> <div>#REDIRECT [[GPT90P (Volcan Hudson)]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT90P_(Volcan_Hudson)&diff=112627 GPT90P (Volcan Hudson) 2023-12-03T01:18:22Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Images */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> * 2019-Nov-30 / Not Traversable for Hiking / SOBO / Regular Route Exploration Attempt (Lago Riesco, Rio Condor, Laguna del Paso) <br /> <br /> We investigate with Tobias Hellwig the Route from Lago Riesco towards Rio Huemules from where packrafters can continue on fjords to Bahia Exploradores. To both of us this seamed a virtually unknown but spectacular route if Rio Huemules can be reached walking.<br /> <br /> Satellite images show at least 3 tiny settlements in the wide open valleys west of vulcano Hudson but we had no clear information if all settlers have abandoned this area or not therefore we started from the north which is the shorter end to the “bottleneck” of this traverse.<br /> <br /> A well maintained gravel road with two recently build bridges end approximately 12 km south of Lago Riesco in the valley of Rio San Sebastián. From this point continues a very muddy road that gradually degrades into a very muddy trail.<br /> <br /> On the way we spoke to the last settler on this route - Don Julian - who stated that this route was the last time traversed around 3 years ago (around 2016) and that the trail was partially cleaned a few months ago (June 2019). From this conversation it remained unclear if a traverse is still possible or not.<br /> <br /> Therefore we investigated this route first without backpacks. Tobias and I had an estimate track because parts of this route are well visible on satellite images. On the first afternoon we followed the recently cleaned trail for about 5 km. The entire trail was easy to spot, only the countless mud holes slowed the advance. The trail showed that a significant effort was made when building it; the trail was wide, muddy sections were filled with wood and bridges were build over small streams. <br /> <br /> This trail condition nurtured our hope that at least the first wide open valley can be reached on this trail so we packed our heavy backpacks to make an attempt. <br /> <br /> The positive mood and the discussion how to best traverse the wide open valleys ahead of us instantly stopped after around 10 km when we reached the end of the recently cleaned trail section. A wall of Quila (a kind bamboo grass) suddenly blocked the trail and satellite images showed a similar landscape on the following 3 km. Quila grows very quickly in open areas and forms an impenetrable red of up to 5 meter high sticks. Under the Quila the old trail was still perfectly well visible but just with the use of a machete (and not a chainsaw) it seamed impossible to open 3 km of badly overgrown trail. So we turned around stumbling back through the chain of mud holes.<br /> <br /> This and other similar experiences led me to the following conclusions:<br /> <br /> 1. The GPT is not a wilderness trail but a route network on the borderline of human advanced into the wilderness of the Andes. Wherever the people leave, the nature reclaims the land and the traces of human settlements disappear over time. Without the arrieros in the north, the Pehuenche in the Araucania and the colonos in the South the trails cease to exits and with this the GPT disappears. Experiencing less interventioned terrain in Patagonia is limited to:<br /> - the areas above the tree-line<br /> - the more open Pampa on the Argentine side<br /> - or on water by packraft or kayak (rivers, lakes, fjords).<br /> Everywhere else visitors rely on the people that party transformed the wilderness in search of making a living.<br /> <br /> 2. In the costal area of the Aysen region settlers are on the retreat. Satellite images still show a good number of roofs and former pastures of abandoned settlements but the trails to these settlements can become impassable after just one or two years without use, especially where the intentional fires set by the first settlers destroyed the original forest.<br /> <br /> 3. In the last week we investigated both possible northern entry routes of section GPT90 from Puerto Aysen towards Bahia Erasmus and in both cases we arrived a few years late. The route via Lago Condor is abandoned since around 2013 and the route via Lago Riesco since around 2016. It remains doubtful if one of two route might be (temporary) opened again.<br /> <br /> 4. When hiking in the Aysen region take with you and deploy a machete to contribute your part to trail maintenance.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2019-Nov-27 to 2019-Nov-28 / 2 days / Packrafting Option 1 from Puerto Aysen to Lago Condor / Meylin Ubilla &amp; Jan Dudeck<br /> <br /> 10 years ago it would have been an uncomplicated packraft-hiking-traverse to get from Puerto Aysen to the barely known Lago Condor. At this time settlers lived on this lake and a power-utility-company performed a research for a hydro-power-project. The hydro-power-project was cancelled off; the settlers left their property and visited it for the last time around 2013 and since then humans left this place for good. <br /> <br /> Now in 2019 it requires probably a 2-day machete fight to cover the roughly 5 km on a now completely overgrown and muddy former trail from the closest river landing beach.<br /> <br /> This transformation is visible to a careful observers on satellite images. When scrolling through the different images of this area trails and research sites are clearly noticeable around 2011 but these signs of human intervention disappear on images from 2016 and later.<br /> <br /> To our surprise we meet the last settler in this area; Don Jose Vera; in a Puesto a few hundred meters up the river from the fjord. He provided us with the above information that confirmed our analysis of satellite images and other publicly available information.<br /> <br /> Due to a other plans, a different more promising route and unsuitable weather we returned to Puerto Chacabuco after meeting and speaking with Don Jose Vera.<br /> <br /> In the coming week we will investigate another more promising route into these hidden valleys and if successful then adventurous packrafters might become the first visitors of Lago Condor in years by combining two routes into a circuit.<br /> <br /> Anyone interested to rediscover the route to Lago Condor, Lago Claro and Lago Ellis should:<br /> <br /> 1. Paddle on a calm day from Puerto Aysen or Puerto Chacabuco to the mouth of the river that drains Lago Condor.<br /> <br /> 2. Attempt to paddle 2.5 km on this river against the flow to an open area (“pampita”). This is best done on high tide. If this is not possible then get at least to the Puesto of Don Jose Vera and follow the trail next to the river to this open area (reasonable well maintained but muddy). Locals occasionally visit this place by motor boat to collect fire wood.<br /> <br /> 3. Build your camp in this open area and search and re-open the old trail to Lago Condor. This will take at least one day but best plan two full days.<br /> <br /> 4. Cross the 14 km long Lago Condor.<br /> <br /> 5. Traverse the 3 km from Lago Condor to Lago Claro on land. You will pass an abandoned settlement area.<br /> <br /> 6. Cross the 5 km long Laguna Claro.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT90P - Volcán Hudson]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT91P_(Istmo_Ofqui)&diff=112626 GPT91P (Istmo Ofqui) 2023-12-03T01:17:35Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Images */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> * 2019-Dec-13 to 2019-Dec-17 / 5 days / Packrafting / Option 1 / Meylin Ubilla &amp; Jan Dudeck<br /> <br /> Rio Exploradores - Bahia Exploradores - Fjordo Cuplauquen - Golfo Elefantes - Caleta Gualas - Rio Gualas (upstream) - Lago &amp; Glacier Gualas - Lago &amp; Glacier Reichert - Lago Sur - Rio Sur<br /> <br /> This is a true wilderness packrafting route with practically no signs of human intervention and the defining landscape elements of the Aysen region in a nutshell: Fjords, rivers, lakes and glacier surrounded by steep mountains and plenty of water from above that nurtures a dense and permanently wet vegetation. From entering Caleta Gualas till reaching the end of Rio Sur we did not see any traces of humans having been there.<br /> <br /> Highlights: Two big glaciers of the Northern Patagonian Icefield terminte in two lakes along the route (Gualas &amp; Reichert). You will be packrafting in between blocks of floating ice.<br /> <br /> Challenges: Weather, bushwhacking and remoteness are the major challenges of this route. <br /> <br /> Weather: To enjoy this route wait for a suitable weather window. On the fjords you need two reasonable calm days and for the remaining part 2 to 3 days with some sun or at least not the typical permanent rain. A series of blue sky days in this area are about as frequent as heavy rain in the desert so waiting for the perfect weather window might mean not starting at all.<br /> <br /> Bushwhacking: There are no trails at all so portages over land means searching and following the gaps in the vegetation or where unavoidable: pushing yourself with brute force through the underwood. In the most open parts we advanced with 1.5 km per hour, in the densest parts with just 300 m per hour. When bushwhacking every kilogram of backpack weight matters, so evaluate well what you really need.<br /> <br /> Remoteness: From the mouth of Rio Gualas till the end of Rio Sur access is very difficult and slow therefore you rely completely on yourself and your gear in this area. Any rescue attempt would take several days to arrange. In case of an accident a search will probably be organized by police after some days of debate to try to recover the body but urgent help is not available.<br /> <br /> Packraft: A closed packraft with spreydeck is ideal on fjords but attempting it with an classic open packraft seams not insane to me if (1) waiting for the right weather window and (2) carrying enough sweat water and food to sit out unsuitable strong wind.<br /> <br /> Permit: This circuit crosses the National Park “Laguna San Rafael” therefore a permit from Conaf is required (”Reglamento especial de zonas remotas en las areas silvestres protegidas de la region de Aysen”). A “Plan de busqueda y rescate”, a “programa de la expedición” and the “Ficha de Registro / Registration Form” must issued and submitted to Conaf for review and approval. All paperwork should to be done in Spanish. Solo travelers will probably not be given a permit (2 people minimum).<br /> <br /> Bahia Exploradores to Bahia Gualas: The roughly 50 km fjord paddling distance may be covered in one day if wind is favorable but planning 2 to 3 days is advisable. At “Paso Quesahuen” tidal flows are exceptionally strong and turbulent (7 kn or 13 km/h) so powerful eddies, countercurrents and waves are common. Therefore pass or porter a “Punta Celtic”. Distance between suitable camp spots are up to 10 km apart so in case of sudden weather changes exit points can be rather far away.<br /> <br /> Rio Gualas to Lago Gualas: The 7 km from the river mouth to Lago Gualas require some upstream paddling and bush bashing in mostly rather open terrain. We walked and paddled a good part in the most northern arm of Rio Gualas but could have left the water earlier to walk on the only slightly overgrown banks between the river arms of Rio Gualas.<br /> <br /> Lago Gualas: If weather is favorable paddle to glaciers Gualas but keep a sufficient safety distance to the glacier as falling blocks of ice can generate tsunami waves and flying fragments of ice.<br /> <br /> Lago Gualas to Lago Reichert: Walk either on the shoreline or through the vegetation to Lago Reichert. We walked through the vegetation to avoid the steep and potentially dangerous shoreline but two stretches of about 300 m were covered by very dense vegetation which a lot of time and energy to cross (about 1 hour each 300 m section).<br /> <br /> Lago Reichert: Halfway on the lake a lake arms opens to the east where the glacier Reichert comes down. Take your time to enjoy the scenery but keep agrian the required safety distance.<br /> <br /> Lago Reichert to Lago Sur: Try to follow the old river bed all the way to Lago Sur. It took us only 3 hours wading in the partly water filled old river bed to reach Lago Sur.<br /> <br /> Lago Sur and Rio Sur: The 3 km long lake and the first 1.5 km of river are easygoing and calm. When you reach the first rapid leave on the left side the river and porter 300 m through the forest. This took us roughly 1 hour due to the difficult terrain (countless fallen threes). The following 4 km of river contain about half a dozen of moderate rapids. We portered most of them over the gravel and boulders on the river shore. Be carful, watch out for the countless trees in the river and avoid taking unnecessary risks! The lower Rio Sur is mostly easygoing and calm. When reaching the end of the Rio Sur cross Rio Exploradores to return to the tiny port and road to Puerto Tranquilo.<br /> <br /> Light version: If you don’t feel confident to paddle 50 km of fjords and cross the point of no return by entering Rio Sur than you can visit the highlights of the route (Lago Gualas and Lago Reichert with the glaciers) in a more controlled manner. Book a tour to Glacier San Rafael with www.destinopatagonia.cl and ask Daniel Torres if the can drop you in Bahia Gualas with you packraft on the way to Glacier San Rafael (he will only do this if you have the Conaf permit). You can then get up to Lago Gualas and maybe also to Lago Reichert. When you are done after one or a few days send an InReach message to Daniel Torres to coordinate your pickup at Bahia Gualas. To return from Lago Gualas you can packraft the Rio Gualas all the way from Lago Gualas into Bahia Gualas. These boat tours are run nearly daily but suspended occasionally if wind makes the boat ride unsafe so carry sufficient food.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> *2019 / Meylin Ubilla &amp; Jan Dudeck<br /> Light version: If you don’t feel confident to paddle 50 km of fjords and cross the point of no return by entering Rio Sur than you can visit the highlights of the route (Lago Gualas and Lago Reichert with the glaciers) in a more controlled manner. Book a tour to Glacier San Rafael with www.destinopatagonia.cl and ask Daniel Torres if the can drop you in Bahia Gualas with you packraft on the way to Glacier San Rafael (he will only do this if you have the Conaf permit). You can then get up to Lago Gualas and maybe also to Lago Reichert. When you are done after one or a few days send an InReach message to Daniel Torres to coordinate your pickup at Bahia Gualas. To return from Lago Gualas you can packraft the Rio Gualas all the way from Lago Gualas into Bahia Gualas. These boat tours are run nearly daily but suspended occasionally if wind makes the boat ride unsafe so carry sufficient food.<br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> *2019/ Meylin Ubilla &amp; Jan Dudeck<br /> Permit: This circuit crosses the National Park “Laguna San Rafael” therefore a permit from Conaf is required (”Reglamento especial de zonas remotas en las areas silvestres protegidas de la region de Aysen”). A “Plan de busqueda y rescate”, a “programa de la expedición” and the “Ficha de Registro / Registration Form” must issued and submitted to Conaf for review and approval. All paperwork should to be done in Spanish. Solo travelers will probably not be given a permit (2 people minimum).<br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT91P - Istmo de Ofqui]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT92P_(Glacier_Steffens)&diff=112625 GPT92P (Glacier Steffens) 2023-12-03T01:16:57Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Images */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> * 2023-Dec-04 to 2023-Dec-09 / 6 days / Packrafting from Tortel to Glaciar Steffen and visit of Lago Santa Ana / Meylin Ubilla and Jan Dudeck <br /> <br /> I drafted this fjord packrafting section several years ago without good knowledge of the typical wind pattern, the normal wind intensity and without reports from other packrafters. Satellite images were the primary source of information for planning this route. But we are now ground-truthing this section to collect more information of this fascinating and rarely visited area on the southern edge of the Northern Patagonian Icefield.<br /> <br /> What we learned about the human history in this region:<br /> <br /> Kawesqar people (sea nomads) may have travelled these fjords but the lack of sea life in this sweat water fjord may have made this particular fjord less attractive for these hunters and gatherers (the high influx of meltwater results in a very low salt concentration on the top layer of water therefore hardly any seashells and other sea life is visible).<br /> <br /> The area was first invaded by larger numbers of humans about 100 years ago when lumberjacks from Chiloe cut virtually all Patagonian cypress (Fitzroya cupressoides) along these fjords. These very slowly growing trees were highly valued for their water resilient wood, that was exported in large quantities. Logging of Fitzroya continued until 1976 when it became forbidden by law because this tree species became nearly extinct. Now only already dead trees can be removed (although illegal logging still occasionally occurs). The steep mountains on either side of the fjords are now densely covered by other trees and many young cypress, therefore the scars caused by wood logging are invisible to the untrained eye and everything appears untouched by humans again.<br /> <br /> In the last century a small number of settlers arrived with cattle, horses and sheep to intent lifestock farming in the very wet and remote valley of Rio Huemules that is clamped between the fjord Estero Steffen and the Northern Patagonian Icefield. This valley can only be reached by boat due to the surrounding mountains. A good number of these settlers have retreated but some remain in the area.<br /> <br /> The route:<br /> <br /> The first 30 km from Tortel to the river delta of Rio Huemules must either be packrafted or alternatively a motor boat can be chartered or twice per month a subsidized ferry can be taken.<br /> <br /> From the coast a 10 km short trail leads up the wide open valley to Glaciar Steffen. Halfway Rio Huemules must be crossed by packraft.<br /> <br /> About 25 years ago Glaciar Steffen retreated to a degree that a lake formed at the glacier end. Under NO circumstances camp on the nice pasture at the lake shore. Occasionally lakes higher up on the edge of glacier Steffen drain through the glacier resulting in substantial glacial lake outburst floods (GLOF). If this occurs, the lake level rises in one or two hours several meters. We camped next to National Park sign up on the glacier morane about 200 m from the lake shore.<br /> <br /> The lake is full of stranded blocks of ice. After crossing this lake by packraft the upper part of the valley of Rio Huemules can be visited. In good weather a 1070 m high viewpoint can be ascended to admire the Northern Patagonian Icefield. <br /> <br /> Optionally, Lago Santa Ana can visited which is located at the eastern end of Estero Steffen. This requires additionally 6 km fjord packrafting and walking up a 800 m short trail. There seams to be suitable beaches to camp at the end of this 8 km long lake.<br /> <br /> Visiting this area without motorized transport requires:<br /> <br /> - Resilience to enduring rain and temperatures between 5 and 15 degree C<br /> - A decked packraft, ideally a double/tandem<br /> - Patience to wait for low-wind windows (typically early in the morning or in the evening)<br /> - Machete to clean a spot for a tent<br /> <br /> Wind and currents:<br /> <br /> Traveling the fjord Estero Steffen northbound is a particular challenge for packrafters as the wind blows most of the time southbound. It took us a little under 10 hours to paddle the 30 km. On the first day we had to seek shelter after 3 hours of paddling when reaching Punta Lucia. The wind became simply too strong to advance. In the evening the wind calmed down somewhat and we covered another 4 km in 2 hours to get to a better camp site. On the second morning we covered the remaining distance against a constant but moderate wind from the north.<br /> <br /> There are several suitable points to camp along the coast but a machete is often needed to clear a small spot for a tent.<br /> <br /> Tidal currents were barely noticeable. There seams to be a weak outbound current especially where Rio Huemules drains into fjord but wind is clearly the dominant force.<br /> <br /> Packrafting northbound in a decked double packraft (MRS Barracuda R2 Pro) was a clear advantage as the hull speed is noticeable higher than in a shorter single packraft. This allows to advance further in the often rather short calm periods. Also, the ratio between wind resistance and paddling propulsion is noticeable better in a double packraft then in single packraft.<br /> <br /> Returning southbound in decked single packrafts is more convenient as packrafters will unlikely struggle against the wind but benefit from wind from the north.<br /> <br /> There is decent mobile phone coverage in Tortel and in the lower valley of Rio Huemules to check weather and wind reports before departing into the fjord. We relied primarily on the weather App from www.nr.no and wind prediction App „Windy“.<br /> <br /> Jose Vargas is the settler at waypoint Settler {92P} [37.2/1]. He is a very welcoming person who offered us to stay in an empty house next to his home.<br /> <br /> We returned on an exceptionally calm day the 30 km by packraft from Rio Huemules to Tortel. The weather was that calm that northbound travel in a solo packraft would have been feasible. But such days are rare. But despite the calmness, waves were surprisingly bumpy between Punta Lucia and Punta Kola which is the most open part where waves roll in from the west.<br /> <br /> Packrafter that prefer to go north with a motor boat to visit the glacier Steffen and try the 3 options and that to return by packraft southbound with the predominant wind may contact:<br /> Luis Arratia: +56 9 5734 2993<br /> Andy: +56 9 9940 8265 / borderiotortel@gmail.com<br /> Or the settler Jose Vargas at Puerto Rio Huemules (send Jan Dudeck a Message or email to coordinate)<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> *Meylin Ubilla and Jan Dudeck<br /> Packrafter that prefer to go north with a motor boat to visit the glacier Steffen and try the 3 options and that to return by packraft southbound with the predominant wind may contact: Luis Arratia: +56 9 5734 2993 Andy: +56 9 9940 8265 / borderiotortel@gmail.com Or the settler Jose Vargas at Puerto Rio Huemules (send Jan Dudeck a Message or email to coordinate)<br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT92P - Glacier Steffens]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT90P_(Volcan_Hudson)&diff=112624 GPT90P (Volcan Hudson) 2023-12-03T01:15:57Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Season 2019/20 */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> * 2019-Nov-30 / Not Traversable for Hiking / SOBO / Regular Route Exploration Attempt (Lago Riesco, Rio Condor, Laguna del Paso) <br /> <br /> We investigate with Tobias Hellwig the Route from Lago Riesco towards Rio Huemules from where packrafters can continue on fjords to Bahia Exploradores. To both of us this seamed a virtually unknown but spectacular route if Rio Huemules can be reached walking.<br /> <br /> Satellite images show at least 3 tiny settlements in the wide open valleys west of vulcano Hudson but we had no clear information if all settlers have abandoned this area or not therefore we started from the north which is the shorter end to the “bottleneck” of this traverse.<br /> <br /> A well maintained gravel road with two recently build bridges end approximately 12 km south of Lago Riesco in the valley of Rio San Sebastián. From this point continues a very muddy road that gradually degrades into a very muddy trail.<br /> <br /> On the way we spoke to the last settler on this route - Don Julian - who stated that this route was the last time traversed around 3 years ago (around 2016) and that the trail was partially cleaned a few months ago (June 2019). From this conversation it remained unclear if a traverse is still possible or not.<br /> <br /> Therefore we investigated this route first without backpacks. Tobias and I had an estimate track because parts of this route are well visible on satellite images. On the first afternoon we followed the recently cleaned trail for about 5 km. The entire trail was easy to spot, only the countless mud holes slowed the advance. The trail showed that a significant effort was made when building it; the trail was wide, muddy sections were filled with wood and bridges were build over small streams. <br /> <br /> This trail condition nurtured our hope that at least the first wide open valley can be reached on this trail so we packed our heavy backpacks to make an attempt. <br /> <br /> The positive mood and the discussion how to best traverse the wide open valleys ahead of us instantly stopped after around 10 km when we reached the end of the recently cleaned trail section. A wall of Quila (a kind bamboo grass) suddenly blocked the trail and satellite images showed a similar landscape on the following 3 km. Quila grows very quickly in open areas and forms an impenetrable red of up to 5 meter high sticks. Under the Quila the old trail was still perfectly well visible but just with the use of a machete (and not a chainsaw) it seamed impossible to open 3 km of badly overgrown trail. So we turned around stumbling back through the chain of mud holes.<br /> <br /> This and other similar experiences led me to the following conclusions:<br /> <br /> 1. The GPT is not a wilderness trail but a route network on the borderline of human advanced into the wilderness of the Andes. Wherever the people leave, the nature reclaims the land and the traces of human settlements disappear over time. Without the arrieros in the north, the Pehuenche in the Araucania and the colonos in the South the trails cease to exits and with this the GPT disappears. Experiencing less interventioned terrain in Patagonia is limited to:<br /> - the areas above the tree-line<br /> - the more open Pampa on the Argentine side<br /> - or on water by packraft or kayak (rivers, lakes, fjords).<br /> Everywhere else visitors rely on the people that party transformed the wilderness in search of making a living.<br /> <br /> 2. In the costal area of the Aysen region settlers are on the retreat. Satellite images still show a good number of roofs and former pastures of abandoned settlements but the trails to these settlements can become impassable after just one or two years without use, especially where the intentional fires set by the first settlers destroyed the original forest.<br /> <br /> 3. In the last week we investigated both possible northern entry routes of section GPT90 from Puerto Aysen towards Bahia Erasmus and in both cases we arrived a few years late. The route via Lago Condor is abandoned since around 2013 and the route via Lago Riesco since around 2016. It remains doubtful if one of two route might be (temporary) opened again.<br /> <br /> 4. When hiking in the Aysen region take with you and deploy a machete to contribute your part to trail maintenance.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2019-Nov-27 to 2019-Nov-28 / 2 days / Packrafting Option 1 from Puerto Aysen to Lago Condor / Meylin Ubilla &amp; Jan Dudeck<br /> <br /> 10 years ago it would have been an uncomplicated packraft-hiking-traverse to get from Puerto Aysen to the barely known Lago Condor. At this time settlers lived on this lake and a power-utility-company performed a research for a hydro-power-project. The hydro-power-project was cancelled off; the settlers left their property and visited it for the last time around 2013 and since then humans left this place for good. <br /> <br /> Now in 2019 it requires probably a 2-day machete fight to cover the roughly 5 km on a now completely overgrown and muddy former trail from the closest river landing beach.<br /> <br /> This transformation is visible to a careful observers on satellite images. When scrolling through the different images of this area trails and research sites are clearly noticeable around 2011 but these signs of human intervention disappear on images from 2016 and later.<br /> <br /> To our surprise we meet the last settler in this area; Don Jose Vera; in a Puesto a few hundred meters up the river from the fjord. He provided us with the above information that confirmed our analysis of satellite images and other publicly available information.<br /> <br /> Due to a other plans, a different more promising route and unsuitable weather we returned to Puerto Chacabuco after meeting and speaking with Don Jose Vera.<br /> <br /> In the coming week we will investigate another more promising route into these hidden valleys and if successful then adventurous packrafters might become the first visitors of Lago Condor in years by combining two routes into a circuit.<br /> <br /> Anyone interested to rediscover the route to Lago Condor, Lago Claro and Lago Ellis should:<br /> <br /> 1. Paddle on a calm day from Puerto Aysen or Puerto Chacabuco to the mouth of the river that drains Lago Condor.<br /> <br /> 2. Attempt to paddle 2.5 km on this river against the flow to an open area (“pampita”). This is best done on high tide. If this is not possible then get at least to the Puesto of Don Jose Vera and follow the trail next to the river to this open area (reasonable well maintained but muddy). Locals occasionally visit this place by motor boat to collect fire wood.<br /> <br /> 3. Build your camp in this open area and search and re-open the old trail to Lago Condor. This will take at least one day but best plan two full days.<br /> <br /> 4. Cross the 14 km long Lago Condor.<br /> <br /> 5. Traverse the 3 km from Lago Condor to Lago Claro on land. You will pass an abandoned settlement area.<br /> <br /> 6. Cross the 5 km long Laguna Claro.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT90P - Volcán Hudson]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border-collapse:collapse&quot;<br /> |+'''GPT90P: Volcán Hudson'''<br /> | colspan=&quot;4&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| GPT90P: Volcán Hudson<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Hiking<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Packrafting<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;|Group<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | P: Fiordos Sur<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Total<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|'''-'''<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|'''-'''<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| '''158.4 km'''<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|'''42 h'''<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;|Region<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Chile: Aysén (XI)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Trails (TL)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 25.7 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|16.2%<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Start<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Puerto Chacabuco<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Minor Roads (MR)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 13.6 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 8.6%<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Finish<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Bahia Exploradores<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Primary Roads (PR)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 4.2 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 2.7%<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Status<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | To be Verified &amp; Recorded by GPS<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Cross-Country (CC)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 47.9 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 30.3%<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Traversable<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Jan - Mar (Maybe: Nov, Dec, Apr, May)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Bush-Bashing (BB)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|-<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Packraft<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Required<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Ferry (FY)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|-<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Connects to<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | GPT29P, GPT31P, GPT80P, GPT91P<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Investigation (I)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| (9.5 km)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| (6.0%)<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Options<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | 116 km (2 Options &amp; Variants)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Exploration (EXP)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| (125.9 km)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|(79.5%)<br /> |-<br /> | <br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Hiking<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Packrafting<br /> | rowspan=&quot;4&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| <br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Total on Water<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| '''66.9 km'''<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| '''42.2%'''<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Attraction<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 4 (of 5)<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| River (RI)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 7.5 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 4.7%<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Difficulty<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 6 (of 5)<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Lake (LK)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 12.1 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 7.6%<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;|Direction<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|None<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|Only ↓<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Fjord (FJ)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 47.3 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|29.9%<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Comment<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; | Hiking: Hiking not feasible<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Character<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; | Valdivian Rain Forest, Volcanic Terrain, Sea Coast, Unpeopled Areas, Fjord Packrafting<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Challenges<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; | Demanding River Fords, Bush Bashing, Demanding Navigation, Resupply Distance, Possibly Impassable, Exploration Required<br /> |}<br /> <br /> [[File:perfil greater patagonian trail 90p.PNG|frame|center|Profile of GPT90P: Volcán Hudson]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT82P_(Aysen_Glacier_Trail)&diff=112623 GPT82P (Aysen Glacier Trail) 2023-12-03T01:14:58Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Images */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> * 2023-Feb-02 to 2023-Feb-06 / 5 days / Rio Nef - Lago Nef - Glaciar Nef and return on the same route / West and Eastbound / Packrafting / Meylin Ubilla, Masha Ovchinnikova, Misha Bogdanov, Jan Dudeck<br /> <br /> The Aysen Glacier Trail combines several long-established horse trails with motor boat crossings of Lago Plomo, Lago Colonia and Rio Colonia and a 5 km long traverse of Glaciar Nef. The egress and exit by motor boat and the glacier traverse makes this an rather exclusive route that is not easily done unsupported. Also, the land owners at Lago Plomo and Lago Colonia collaborate closely with the company that offers guided tours on the Aysen Glacier Trail for several thousand USD per person.<br /> <br /> See: http://www.patagoniaadventureexpeditions.com/the-aysen...<br /> <br /> Attempting the Aysen Glacier Trail without this company requires:<br /> <br /> 1. A mountain guide that is familiar with this route and the glacier terrain and that can provide the mountaineering equipment for the glacier traverse. Nelson Baigorria (+56 9 6640 9400) is such a guide with lots of local expertise.<br /> <br /> 2. Permission and motor boat transfer from Puerto Bertrand to the western terminus of Lago Plomo. Crossing Lago Plomo by packraft is an option but requires optimal weather and may result in additional waiting time as the predominant wind direction is against the travel direction.<br /> <br /> 3. Permission and motor boat transfer of Lago Colonia and Rio Colonia. Crossing Lago Colonia by packraft is an suitable alternative as the predominant wind direction is in travel direction but this requires an extra free seat for the guide.<br /> <br /> Due to time and weather constraints we opted against the Aysen Glacier Trail this season and choose to explore the valley of Rio Nef instead that potentially provides access to the Aysen Glacier Trail on an alternative route with less right-of-way conflicts.<br /> <br /> The trail head is situated just south of the confluence of Rio Nef into Rio Baker and can be reached on several routes:<br /> <br /> Option 1 (without packraft): 33 km on road from Cochrane via Carretera Austral, bridge over Rio Baker “El manzano” to “El Maiten”.<br /> <br /> Option 2 (with packraft): Bus from Cochrane or Puerto Bertrand to Confluencia Rio Nef, walking 1.2 km to Rio Baker, packraft crossing of Rio Baker, walking 2 km to Rio Nef and packraft crossing of Rio Nef.<br /> <br /> Option 3 (with packraft, some whitewater): Packrafting Rio Baker from Puerto Bertrand to the river exit BEFORE the the major rapids of Rio Baker start. You may discuss your plans with a rafting company in Puerto Bertrand to send heavy gear with the raft and packraft in the vicinity of the raft and the safety kayakers that accompany the raft.<br /> <br /> From the trail head at “El Maiten” a well maintained 26 km long trail leads along the southern side of Rio Nef to the Tapera Cadagan. There are several abandoned “poblaciones” along the route. Access to drinking water is sufficient to refill a water bottle every hour or two. Also suitable camp sites can be found every hour or two.<br /> <br /> After reaching Tapera Cadagan the trail becomes barely visible and poorly maintained. The route traverses the adjacent mountain. Enough water should be carried from the last river ford, especially on a warm sunny days. After the 740 m high pass the route descends towards the forest. In the forest the trail is somewhat better visible but remains poorly maintained. In parts the route traverse open terrain next to Rio Nef without any visible trail. The last 2 km to the Lago Nef is an uncomplicated cross-country traverse. A camp site should be chosen based on the required wind protection.<br /> <br /> Packrafters can inflate their packrafts on a calm early morning or evening to cross the 5 km short lake to the glacier fron. Sufficient safety distance should be maintained to the glacier and stranded and floating blocks of ice.<br /> <br /> A brief visual inspection and a drone video makes it appear feasible to walk from the southwestern terminus of the lake to the main route of the Aysen Glacier Trail without mountaineering equipment but this remains to be verified.<br /> <br /> When returning on the same hiking route packrafters must walk at least to Camp (-47.1502 / -73.0501). There the rapids of Rio Nef are left behind and Rio Nef becomes a fast-flowing falt-water river with some boils. The former trail to the river is in parts still visible and 2 to 4 hours of machete work are required to clear especially the final 200 m to the river access. This is best done by a team of at least 2 persons with at least 2 machetes.<br /> <br /> The return by packraft requires about 2 hours. Make sure to exit Rio Nef BEFORE the rapids and the confluence into Rio Baker.<br /> <br /> Note: We documented this route<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT82P - Travesía Soler-Nef]]<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT83P - Travesía Nef-Colonia]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT80P_(Glaciar_Exploradores)&diff=112622 GPT80P (Glaciar Exploradores) 2023-12-03T01:14:11Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Images */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT80P - Valle Exploradores]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT78P_(Estuario_de_Reloncavi)&diff=112621 GPT78P (Estuario de Reloncavi) 2023-12-03T01:12:47Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Season 2021/22 */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> * 2018-Dec-14 to 2018-Dec-17 / GPT78P / Packrafting (Hornopiren to Rio Puelo along the coast) / Jan Dudeck &amp; Meylin Elisabeth Ubilla González<br /> <br /> After we failed to traverse on the land route from Hornopirén to Rio Puelo (via Lago Pinto Concha and Rio Traidor) we opted for the sea route. This water route turned out to be challenging as expected but more feasible. 100 km in fjords and along rather open coast lines was easier and also more attractive than fighting our way through 7 km of Valdivian Rainforest (this was the length of the „missing link” of the land route that we attempted last week but couldn’t traverse fully).<br /> <br /> Hornopirén to Puntilla Pichicolo: This is a section with very few exits along a steep coast. It should be paddled in the early morning before wind picks up. A short cut from Cholgo (GPT77P) via the hot springs Llancahue to Puntilla Pichicolo is smart choice if you do not need to resupply in Hornopirén. We paddled it on a calm morning with hardly and wind.<br /> <br /> Puntilla Pichocolo to Rolecha: This sector is less problematic since you paddle along a flat coast with plenty of exits next to a road. This part is more wind exposed but you can easily switch between paddling, hiking or taking motorized transport. We paddled most of this segment (to Queten) where increasing head wind forced us out of the water and we took motorized transport to Caleta Puelche to not wait two days for a change of weather.<br /> <br /> Rolecha to Tentelhue: Due to strong currents and wind exposure at the water route around tip of the peninsula it seams a wise choice to hike 2 km on the road instead of paddling if you camped or stopped nearby.<br /> <br /> Tentelhue to Caleta Puelche: This segment is less problematic since you paddle along a flat coast with plenty of exits next to a road. This part is more wind exposed but you can easily switch between paddling, hiking or taking motorized transport. We took motorized transport to Caleta Puelche.<br /> <br /> Fiordo Reloncavi (Caleta Puelche to Rio Puelo): This fjords is quite challenging due to wind and partly strong tidal currents. There are some exits along the coast. Favourable wind (Northbound travel direction) are common but might get too strong to paddle or sail safely. We struggled on the first 8 km with strong currents despite having rising tide. Flows at the fjord entrance are rather strange and unexpected. We than continue the next morning but had to bail out after 1 hour on the water to wait for more suitable weather (strong wind, heavy rain, low visibility made paddling to dangerous). We luckily stopped at the right place and became the guests of an older couple that cultivate mussels. We spend a day of rest with them in their tiny house right on the coast. Once the conditions improved it became a fantastic but demanding paddling day. We started in calm weather and around noon strong wind from the back pushed us to Rio Puelo and further to Cochamo.<br /> More details on request.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT78 - Estuario de Reloncaví]]<br /> <br /> =Images=</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT78P_(Estuario_de_Reloncavi)&diff=112620 GPT78P (Estuario de Reloncavi) 2023-12-03T01:11:46Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Season 2018/19 */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> * 2021-Nov-25 to 2021-Nov-28 / 4 days / GPT78 RR Southbound / Land traverse from Rio Puelo to Hornopiren / Meylin Elisabeth Ubilla González and Jan Dudeck<br /> <br /> First: Thank you Linda Bortoletto and Martin Lizondo for recording this route when being guided by Patricio Bayer in season 2019/20. And thank you for leaving a positive memory with Patricio Bayer. We were granted permission to cross his property after a phone call.<br /> <br /> This route connects Rio Puelo with Hornopiren via Lago Pinto Concha. Highlights are the dense Valdivian Rainforest, the gigantic Alerce trees, the wetlands on the plateau with Cypress trees, the traverse of the volcanic terrain of volcan Yates and the lake Pinto Concha.<br /> <br /> This route was created many decades ago to drive cattle from the Puelo valley to the coast before a road was build along the Puelo river. Now this route is barely used and only the trail section inside the National Park Hornopiren towards Hornopiren is well maintained.<br /> <br /> This route is best hiked southbound and only after obtaining permission from Patricio Beyer by phone (+56 9 8132 4070 and +56 9 9573 5461). You will also cross the property of Eulogio (Lalo) Soto who will probably checks by phone with Patricio Beyer first before letting you pass. He will charge an entrance fee of 5000 CLP per person.<br /> <br /> The route is now slightly altered on the northern end to facilitate a otherwise very demanding river crossing (Diversion from Regular Route at: S 41.7806 / W 72.2403 … Now recommended river ford: S 41.7771 / W 72.2359 … Rejoin Regular Route at: S 41.7803 / W 72.7204). This part of the trail is generally well maintained and visible.<br /> <br /> The navigation challenge starts south of the Puesto of Patricio Bayer (Point: Settler {78} [37.6/398]) and ends when leaving the forrest towards the lava field of Volcan Yates (southern end of track: RH-TL&amp;BB-V {78} [24.6+16.8]). A good part of the trail is rarely used and poorly maintained and many animal tracks make the “main trail” often indistinguishable from other weakly visible tracks. But the often dense vegetation and the irregular geography make following the “main trail” essential.<br /> <br /> We verified our position typically every 50 m, sometimes even more often. The internal compass of our handheld GPS was very helpful to frequently realign us to the “main trail” that takes many unexpected turns and twists.<br /> <br /> I assume we are the first hikers in many years that walk this route without a guide. But even with a very precise GPS record the navigation was unexpected demanding. We consumed substantially more GPS battery power than normal due to the frequent checks and we still accidentally wandered of the “main trail” often. Hikers have no chance to traverse this route without a GPS and without the GPT track file. Even backtracking out memory is barely possible. Therefore a backup navigation device and sufficient recharge power are a life insurance on this route.<br /> <br /> Once the open lava field of Volcan Yates is reached navigation becomes simpler. After a cross country traverse in an open volcanic landscape a well maintained and easily visible trail leads down to Lago Pinto Concha and Hornopiren.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> * 2018-Dec-14 to 2018-Dec-17 / GPT78P / Packrafting (Hornopiren to Rio Puelo along the coast) / Jan Dudeck &amp; Meylin Elisabeth Ubilla González<br /> <br /> After we failed to traverse on the land route from Hornopirén to Rio Puelo (via Lago Pinto Concha and Rio Traidor) we opted for the sea route. This water route turned out to be challenging as expected but more feasible. 100 km in fjords and along rather open coast lines was easier and also more attractive than fighting our way through 7 km of Valdivian Rainforest (this was the length of the „missing link” of the land route that we attempted last week but couldn’t traverse fully).<br /> <br /> Hornopirén to Puntilla Pichicolo: This is a section with very few exits along a steep coast. It should be paddled in the early morning before wind picks up. A short cut from Cholgo (GPT77P) via the hot springs Llancahue to Puntilla Pichicolo is smart choice if you do not need to resupply in Hornopirén. We paddled it on a calm morning with hardly and wind.<br /> <br /> Puntilla Pichocolo to Rolecha: This sector is less problematic since you paddle along a flat coast with plenty of exits next to a road. This part is more wind exposed but you can easily switch between paddling, hiking or taking motorized transport. We paddled most of this segment (to Queten) where increasing head wind forced us out of the water and we took motorized transport to Caleta Puelche to not wait two days for a change of weather.<br /> <br /> Rolecha to Tentelhue: Due to strong currents and wind exposure at the water route around tip of the peninsula it seams a wise choice to hike 2 km on the road instead of paddling if you camped or stopped nearby.<br /> <br /> Tentelhue to Caleta Puelche: This segment is less problematic since you paddle along a flat coast with plenty of exits next to a road. This part is more wind exposed but you can easily switch between paddling, hiking or taking motorized transport. We took motorized transport to Caleta Puelche.<br /> <br /> Fiordo Reloncavi (Caleta Puelche to Rio Puelo): This fjords is quite challenging due to wind and partly strong tidal currents. There are some exits along the coast. Favourable wind (Northbound travel direction) are common but might get too strong to paddle or sail safely. We struggled on the first 8 km with strong currents despite having rising tide. Flows at the fjord entrance are rather strange and unexpected. We than continue the next morning but had to bail out after 1 hour on the water to wait for more suitable weather (strong wind, heavy rain, low visibility made paddling to dangerous). We luckily stopped at the right place and became the guests of an older couple that cultivate mussels. We spend a day of rest with them in their tiny house right on the coast. Once the conditions improved it became a fantastic but demanding paddling day. We started in calm weather and around noon strong wind from the back pushed us to Rio Puelo and further to Cochamo.<br /> More details on request.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT78 - Estuario de Reloncaví]]<br /> <br /> =Images=</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT77_(PN_Pumalin_Norte)&diff=112619 GPT77 (PN Pumalin Norte) 2023-12-03T01:05:58Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Images */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> * 2021-Nov-30 / Hiking / SOBO / Option from Hornopiren to Chaiten (GPT77 and GPT76) / Meylin Elisabeth Ubilla González and Jan Dudeck<br /> <br /> With the land border between Chile and Argentina still closed hikers can not cross into Argentina on section GPT22 but can continue hiking southbound by walking section GPT78 from Rio Puelo to Hornopiren. See my previous post to this section.<br /> <br /> From Hornopiren two daily ferries carry passengers and cars to Caleta Gonzalo. The early ferry departs in Hornopiren at 8 am and a second ferry departs in Hornopiren at 10:30 am.<br /> <br /> Both ferries go to Leptepu from where a bus carries passengers (without a car) to Fiordo Largo (approx. 12 km). From Fiordo Largo a second ferry carries cars and passengers to Caleta Gonzalo. On the later ferry that departs at 10:30 in Hornopiren is the daily bus that departs in the morning in Puerto Montt and arrives at 16:00 in Chaiten.<br /> <br /> Hikers can sweaten this ferry trip by visiting the Termas de Porcelano about 4 km north of Leptepu. These natural hot springs are one of the finest in this region. This requires a boat transfer from Leptepu to Punta Porcelana and back (about 20’000 to 30’000 CLP per boat with up to 6 passangers). A nearby hospedaje offers accommodation (about 25’000 CLP per day per person including meals). Alternatively hikers may ask for permission to camp near the beach.<br /> <br /> On two days per week (Tuesday and Friday) a subsidized small ferry (passengers only) visits all the tiny settlements between Hornopiren and Leptepu including Punta Porcelana next to the hot spings what cuts cost of the boat transfer (only one boat transfer for about 15’000 CLP from Punta Porcelana to Leptepu). This subsidized ferry departs at 1 pm in Hornopiren and is called Serenade II.<br /> <br /> Contacts:<br /> <br /> Boat transfer between Leptepu and Punta Porcelana and accomodation near Punta Porcelana: Mabel +56-9-87696084<br /> <br /> Termas de Porcelana: Marlyn +56-9-90978870 (you may buy bread and homemade marmalade from Marlyn)<br /> <br /> Subsidized ferry Serenade II: Alejandro Jobis +56-9-87696084 (Tuesday and Friday only).<br /> <br /> Hikers the plan to walk section GPT76 from Caleta Gonzalo to Chaiten may take the early ferry that departs at 8:00 am in Hornopiren and check after arrival in Caleta Gonzalo if a boat is available to carry hikers towards Loyola to hike section GPT76 southbound.<br /> <br /> If there is no boat available in Caleta Gonzalo hikers best wait for the second ferry that arrives 2:30 h later. On the second ferry is the bus to Chaiten. From Chaiten hikers can walk section GPT76 northbound. Once in Loyola hikers will find more people with boats in this larger settlement so it is generally easier to arrange a boat transfer from Loyola to Caleta Gonzalo than the other way around.<br /> <br /> * 2021-Nov-30 to 2021-Dec-06 / 7 days / Packrafting / Hornopiren to Caleta Gonzalo, NoBo and SoBo (Leptepu-Termas de Porcelana-Cahuelmo-Laguna Abascal-Vodudahue) / Meylin Elisabeth Ubilla González and Jan Dudeck<br /> <br /> The often strong wind in these fjords makes packrafting challenging and more risky if attempted with an open packraft without spraydeck. Therefore a decked packraft is the recommended gear.<br /> <br /> The recommended travel direction is southbound due to the predominant wind direction.<br /> <br /> Packrafting should only be attempted if the weather forecast predicts calm weather or moderate wind only.<br /> <br /> On good-weather days with the typical daily wind pattern the morning from sunrise to about 10 am or noon is generally calm and them the “viento sur” kicks in that lasts till 5 pm or 7 pm. The “viento sur” quickly builds up high waves thats makes packrafting unpleasant or even impossible especially with an open packraft. Therefore it is essential to get up in the night and start paddling with the first daylight around sunrise. The best days for packrafting are overcasted calm days. On such days “viento sur” is less dominant.<br /> <br /> Two legs require paddling 20 km in one go between suitable camps (Pichanco to Termas de Cahuelmo / Termas de Cahuelmo to Huinay). So getting up early and racing against the clock is essential to not get pinned down by strong wind halfway.<br /> <br /> Highlights are the Termas de Cahuelmo, Laguna Abascal and the Termas Porcelana.<br /> <br /> Termas de Cahuelmo: Are located at the eastern end of the Fiordo Cahuelmo. The pools offer the perfect view into the fjord. A refuge facilitates cooking in rainy weather. There are several spots for tents in forest next to the hot springs.<br /> <br /> Laguna Abascal: Is location about 3 km east of the Termas de Cahuelmo. At low tide packrafters can walk 1 km cross-country to the trailhead, otherwise packrafters better paddle by packraft to the trailhead as the river arms quickly become flooded by the rising tide. From the trailhead a well maintained 2 km short trail leads to Laguna Abascal. Paddling this lake by packraft is highly recommended. The lake is surrounded by steep mountains with few beaches for camping. We slept one night in the refuge at the trail end next to Laguna Abascal and returned on the next morning to the Termas de Cahuelmo.<br /> <br /> Termas de Porcelana: Are located 4 km north of Leptepu and definitely worth a visit. You can ask for permission to camp next to the beach. Contact Marlyn +56-9-90978870 (you may buy bread and homemade marmalade from Marlyn)<br /> <br /> In Leptepu is a nice refuge right where the ferries arrive.<br /> <br /> From Leptepu packrafters may walk the road and enter the Fundo Pillan to get to Estero Pillan where you may camp next to the beach. The 12 km from Estero Pillan to Caleta Gonzalo are feasible against the predominant wind direction in a calm morning if leaving with sunrise. Strong tidal currents occur at narrow at the river delta of Rio Renihue. If needed leave the packraft and pull it against the current along the edge of the river delta.<br /> <br /> Sections GPT74P and GPT76 are only recommended in northbound direction (river flow direction and predominant wind). Therfore, after arrival in Caleta Gonzalo best take the bus to Chaiten that arrives with the ferry in Cateta Gonzalo around 15:00 and take a second bus to Puerto Cardenas after resupplying in Chaiten.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2021-Dec-03 to 2021-Dec-06 / 3 days / Packrafting / Hornopirén to Chaitén, SoBo (GPT77 and GPT76 Option 3) / Tobías Schorcht<br /> <br /> Did the stretch from Hornopirén to Caleta Gonzalo in a open Packraft in 3 days. The most challenging Parts are the Canal Comau and the Fjordo Largo. Watch carefully the tides and wind and stay close to the shore, since the weather can change quickly.<br /> <br /> From Caleto Gonzalo I did some roadwalking through Parce Pumalin, went up to the viewpoint Volcán Chaitén and took the Option 3,GPT76 down to Chaitén. I would Not recomment to do that. At least not southbounded. It requires a lot of Nalca bashing and climbing by the River Chaitén. I felt down once and hurt my shoulder badly. Better take the Option Jan recommented (Loyola, Chumelden).<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> * 2019-Dec-30 / Hiking / SOBO / Martín Lizondo<br /> <br /> At Hornopiren there are three ferries. Leaving schedule is at 9 am, 10:30 am and at 00 hs from Hornopirén. Reservation is made the day before or the same day since 8:30 am. There’s a bus between Leptepu and Fiordo Largo, with an obligatory boat transfer included to Caleta Gonzalo. The trip takes around 5 hours. Cost = CLP 5700.<br /> <br /> In Caleta Gonzalo there’s a camping with services.<br /> <br /> GPT 76: The boat to Loyola and Chumilden leaves Caleta Gonzalo on monday, tuesday, wednesday and friday. Conract: Roberto Btos +56 9 85564749. Cost = CLP 2400 per person. Also locals travel by small boats between Caleta Gonzalo to Loyola and Chumilden and can pick you up for some money.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> * 2018-Dec-03 to 2018-Dec-07 / GPT77P Fjordo Comau Leptepu / Packrafting Northbound / Meylin Elisabeth Ubilla González and Jan Dudeck<br /> <br /> We just investigate this packrafting section that connects Caleta Gonzalo with Hornopiren. This section consists of 90 km packrafting in four fjords and 10 km of road walk. <br /> When combined with GPT73P (Lago Yelcho), GPT74P (Rio Yelcho) and GPT76P (Canal Desertores) a more than 250 km long continuos packrafting traverse is formed with just 10 km walking. (We investigated these sections last season.)<br /> <br /> Pro: Amazing views all along the way, plenty of wild life (i.e. sea lions, pingüinos, dolphins) and up to four hot springs on the way. The highlight are the Baños Cahuelmo (fantastic natural hot springs from 35 to 40 degree C) that are hidden at the end of side fjord. I’m considering to rename this section to “Fiordos Termales”.<br /> <br /> Cons: This is without doubt one of the more challenging packrafting routes of the GPT. For safety reasons this traverse should only be attempted with:<br /> 1. a packraft that incorporates a spreydeck, <br /> 2. plenty spare food and<br /> 3. without a tight timeline. <br /> Depending on wind a packrafter might need to wait days for better conditions in a remote location without any alternative land exit route. We were extremely lucky and had 5 days with mostly sunshine and optimal wind conditions.<br /> The “salmoneras” (maned salmon cultures) don’t add to the beauty but provide a last resort if running into problems on the way.<br /> <br /> Wind: I’m unsure if there is a clearly preferable travel direction due to different predominant wind directions in these fjords. We choose to travel northbound based on the adjacent sections we did before and plan to do afterwards. If GPT77P is done uncombined with other sections southbound might be slightly beneficial.<br /> <br /> On a normal nice day expect relatively calm conditions between dawn and 10 o’clock in the morning. Than wind starts to pick up entering from the Pacific Ocean and following the directions of the fjords inland. Therefore be on the water paddling with the first light of the day. If you you leave after sunrise you might be too late. In poor weather you might not be able to advance for several days.<br /> Especially the two 21 km long legs from Huinay to Baños Cahuelmo and from the Baños Cahuelmo to Pichamco should be paddled each on one morning as there are no suitable campsites on the cost (only some inconvenient emergency exits).<br /> <br /> Tides: Tides are significant and tidal currents effect most fjords. Based on our measured speed tidal currents were typical 1 to 2 km/h; sometimes in favor, sometimes opposing.<br /> In two areas the tidal currents exceed clearly the packrafting paddle speed:<br /> 1. At the narrow formed by sediment cone of Rio Reñihue (km 7 to km 9 counted from Caleta Gonzalo). We only passed this narrow against the tidal flow by paddling hard and sailing with strong backwind through the shallower area.<br /> 2. The mouth of Fiordo Quintupeo (km 74 to km 76 counted from Caleta Gonzalo). Keep distance and paddle through more open water and not close to the cost especial when the tide is rising (you will otherwise be sucked into this fiord without being asked and may capsize in the strong eddies).<br /> <br /> Water: There are plenty of streams running down the mountains. Anyway fill up all your water containers at the beginning of the two longer traverses in case you need to seek refuge in between if the wind and waves make it impossible to reach the next suitable campsite.<br /> <br /> Access: There is a daily ferry between Hornopiren and Caleta Gonzalo.<br /> Southbound: 09:00 to 14:00<br /> Northbound: approx 16:00 to 21:00<br /> Alternative is the daily ferry between Hornopiren and Leptepu<br /> Southbound: approx. 10:30 to 13:00<br /> Northbound: approx. 14:00 to 16:30<br /> <br /> Accomodation: The settler in Huinay offers accommodation and food (15’000 CLP including dinner and breakfast per person). Apart from this there are no resupply possibilities on the route. You must rely on what you carry.<br /> <br /> Hornopirén: We stayed in a nice inexpensive cabaña (25’000 CLP) and left some extra gear with the owner Melania. / Mobile: +56-9-42317571 / EMail: melania1.2@hotmail.com (Spanish only!)<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> *2021 / Meylin Elisabeth Ubilla González and Jan Dudeck<br /> From Hornopiren two daily ferries carry passengers and cars to Caleta Gonzalo. The early ferry departs in Hornopiren at 8 am and a second ferry departs in Hornopiren at 10:30 am.<br /> Both ferries go to Leptepu from where a bus carries passengers (without a car) to Fiordo Largo (approx. 12 km). From Fiordo Largo a second ferry carries cars and passengers to Caleta Gonzalo. On the later ferry that departs at 10:30 in Hornopiren is the daily bus that departs in the morning in Puerto Montt and arrives at 16:00 in Chaiten.<br /> (...)<br /> Contacts:<br /> Boat transfer between Leptepu and Punta Porcelana and accomodation near Punta Porcelana: Mabel +56-9-87696084<br /> Termas de Porcelana: Marlyn +56-9-90978870 (you may buy bread and homemade marmalade from Marlyn)<br /> Subsidized ferry Serenade II: Alejandro Jobis +56-9-87696084 (Tuesday and Friday only).<br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> *2021 / Meylin Elisabeth Ubilla González and Jan Dudeck<br /> With the land border between Chile and Argentina still closed hikers can not cross into Argentina on section GPT22 but can continue hiking southbound by walking section GPT78 from Rio Puelo to Hornopiren. See my previous post to this section.<br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT77 - PN Pumalin Norte]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT76_(PN_Pumalin_Sur)&diff=112618 GPT76 (PN Pumalin Sur) 2023-12-03T01:05:09Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Images */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> * 2019-Dec-30 to 2020-Jan-01 / 3 days / Hiking / SOBO / Martín Lizondo <br /> <br /> The boat to Loyola and Chumilden leaves Caleta Gonzalo on monday, tuesday, wednesday and friday at 11 am. Contact: Roberto Btos +56 9 85564749. Cost = CLP 2400 per person. Also locals travel by small boats between Caleta Gonzalo to Loyola and Chumilden and can pick you up for some money.<br /> <br /> The route starts in Loyola following mostly isolated minor road, some cross country sections and cattle trails. The trails are very moody and in bad conditions. Walking along the beach is an easier alternative. Two river crossing are difficult: “Río Quita Calzón” and “Río Negro”. The second one depends on the sea level and is practicaly impassable by foot at the gps’s track point. Instead, a boat crossing is recommended from Chana, which is near to the beach and easy to access. From Chana the road continues to Chaiten.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> * February 2028 / GPT76P: Chaiten / Jan Dudeck &amp; Meylin Ubilla<br /> <br /> After we reached the Pacific on the Rio Yelcho we connected straight to section GPT76P without even stopping in Chaiten. The weather was so favorable that we continued over the bay from Rio Yelcho to Santa Barbara on the sea. On this day we enjoyed the view of glacier covered mountains, steaming volcanoes and observed penguins, sea lions and dolphins while paddling. The weather continued to be favorable the following days which permitted us to paddle along the coast all the way to Caleta Gonzalo. <br /> <br /> Originally I planned this section as primarily hiking with a bit of packrafting but our excellent experience makes me change this section. I will now suggest to paddle along the coast and hike only if the wind and weather do not permit packrafting. There are plenty of places where you can easily leave the sea what makes packrafting in this rather exposed area reasonable safe (if you have good judgment and sufficient fear of wind and waves to leave the water when the weather is unsuitable for packrafting).<br /> <br /> The Rio Yelcho and coast to Caleta Gonzalo took us 5 moderate long days and half the time we were either floating or sailing with the wind with lots of wildlife to watch. That was Patagonia on its best!<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT76 - PN Pumalin Sur]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT75P_(Rio_Frio)&diff=112617 GPT75P (Rio Frio) 2023-12-03T01:04:46Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Images */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> * SEASON UNCLEAR: Jan-17 to Jan-18 / 2 half days / Hiking &amp; Packrafting / Rio Frío / Zach <br /> <br /> On the way down Rio Palena, at the confluence of Rios Palena y Frío, i headed up Ruta 7 to add a day riding the Rio Frío. Rio frío is a dream. Not much traffic on Runa 7 made hitching unsuccessful for 2 hours. Luckily a bus stopped in Vanguardia to Villa Santa Lucía. Look for Daniel’s Refugio. In addition to lodging and meals he offers riverside camping by donation and easy access to put in the river (-43.4360, -72.3656). A nice community of cycle tourists camped there. I bottomed out several times in the first few kilometers but nothing requiring getting out of the boat for. The upper river is braided requiring choosing the deepest branch. Some rapids were a touch more powerful than the upper Rio Palena but manageable. Many had trees and rocks in the main current that required scouting the right line and paddling hard. The rapid just past the bridge is probably doable with scouting if you paddle hard right after the first drop, but is easily portaged without leaving the river valley for the road. I arrived back to the confluence around the same time I left the day before. Absolutely an extra day well spent. This river is full of rapids and requires constant attention. Approximate locations of some (not all) of the larger rapids: (-43.4816, -72.3623), (-43.4933, -72.3546), (-43.5788, -72.3306), (-43.6546, -72.3247).<br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT75P - Río Frío]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT74P_(Rio_Yelcho)&diff=112616 GPT74P (Rio Yelcho) 2023-12-03T01:04:00Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Images */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> * 2023-Nov-06 to 2023-Nov-09 / 3 days/ Packrafting/ Northbound / GPT 74P Rio Yelcho / Jordan Jennings<br /> <br /> My time on Rio Yelcho succeeded days of heavy rain. The river was swollen and very pushy. My guess is that it was moving at around 12km/h. Maybe more. I appreciated headwinds.<br /> <br /> Saying this, the biggest risks that I noted were the many (and usual) partially submerged trees. The first rapid, I easily portaged. There was even an eddy in perfect proximity in an adjacent creek flowing into Yelcho which allowed for an easy reentry. The second rapid, although I knew where it was on my gps, I passed without noticing. Perhaps it is more prominent with lower levels of water. <br /> <br /> On my final day, I got a beautiful sunny day after 6 days of rain. From my camp 2/3rds down the river, I watched the sun come up over a gentle mist rolling down the valley. When the sun hit the mist, it lit up a stunning golden. One of the most spectacular sights I have ever seen. <br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> * 2022-Jan-14 to 2022-Jan-15 / 1.5 days / Packrafting / NOBO / GPT 74P Río Yelcho / Tobias Schorcht<br /> <br /> Río Yelcho is a fast floating and wide River. It’s well documented in the Track files with a numerous of beautiful camps all along the way. There are 2 easy Rapids. The First one is class 2, if you take the more fun line and paddle through the waves on the right side. The chicken line (class 1) is on the very right side, where a portage is also possible. The second rapid is class 1 and leads you through some fallen trees. Enjoy!<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> * February 2018 / GPT74P: Rio Yelcho / Jan Dudeck &amp; Meylin Ubilla<br /> <br /> We just paddled down Rio Yelcho from Puerto Cardenas to the Pacific. It’s the perfect river for packrafting. There are two moderate rapids that were easy to walk around now with lower water levels. There are plenty of nice places to camp along the river. There is just one downside: the river is just 40 km long. Therefore you could float down the river in one day but to appreciate the river at most camp before you reach the sea.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT74P - Río Yelcho]]<br /> <br /> =Images=</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT76_(PN_Pumalin_Sur)&diff=112615 GPT76 (PN Pumalin Sur) 2023-12-03T01:02:50Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Season 2017/18 */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> * 2019-Dec-30 to 2020-Jan-01 / 3 days / Hiking / SOBO / Martín Lizondo <br /> <br /> The boat to Loyola and Chumilden leaves Caleta Gonzalo on monday, tuesday, wednesday and friday at 11 am. Contact: Roberto Btos +56 9 85564749. Cost = CLP 2400 per person. Also locals travel by small boats between Caleta Gonzalo to Loyola and Chumilden and can pick you up for some money.<br /> <br /> The route starts in Loyola following mostly isolated minor road, some cross country sections and cattle trails. The trails are very moody and in bad conditions. Walking along the beach is an easier alternative. Two river crossing are difficult: “Río Quita Calzón” and “Río Negro”. The second one depends on the sea level and is practicaly impassable by foot at the gps’s track point. Instead, a boat crossing is recommended from Chana, which is near to the beach and easy to access. From Chana the road continues to Chaiten.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> * February 2028 / GPT76P: Chaiten / Jan Dudeck &amp; Meylin Ubilla<br /> <br /> After we reached the Pacific on the Rio Yelcho we connected straight to section GPT76P without even stopping in Chaiten. The weather was so favorable that we continued over the bay from Rio Yelcho to Santa Barbara on the sea. On this day we enjoyed the view of glacier covered mountains, steaming volcanoes and observed penguins, sea lions and dolphins while paddling. The weather continued to be favorable the following days which permitted us to paddle along the coast all the way to Caleta Gonzalo. <br /> <br /> Originally I planned this section as primarily hiking with a bit of packrafting but our excellent experience makes me change this section. I will now suggest to paddle along the coast and hike only if the wind and weather do not permit packrafting. There are plenty of places where you can easily leave the sea what makes packrafting in this rather exposed area reasonable safe (if you have good judgment and sufficient fear of wind and waves to leave the water when the weather is unsuitable for packrafting).<br /> <br /> The Rio Yelcho and coast to Caleta Gonzalo took us 5 moderate long days and half the time we were either floating or sailing with the wind with lots of wildlife to watch. That was Patagonia on its best!<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT76 - PN Pumalin Sur]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border-collapse:collapse&quot;<br /> |+'''GPT76: PN Pumalin Sur'''<br /> | colspan=&quot;4&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| GPT76: PN Pumalin Sur<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Hiking<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Packrafting<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;|Group<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | N: Fiordos Norte<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Total<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|'''64.3 km'''<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|'''15 h'''<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| '''77.1 km'''<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|'''22 h'''<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;|Region<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Chile: Los Lagos (X)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Trails (TL)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|18.8 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|29.3%<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|-<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Start<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Chaitén<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Minor Roads (MR)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|35.5 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|55.3%<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Finish<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Caleta Gonzalo<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Primary Roads (PR)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|10.0 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|15.5%<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Status<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Published &amp; Verified<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Cross-Country (CC)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Traversable<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Sep - May<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Bush-Bashing (BB)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|-<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Packraft<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Very Useful<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Ferry (FY)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|(9.8 km)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|(13.3%)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|-<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Connects to<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | GPT71, GPT74P, GPT77<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Investigation (I)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|(18.8 km)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|(29.3%)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Options<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | 277 km (2 Options &amp; Variants)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Exploration (EXP)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|-<br /> |-<br /> | <br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Hiking<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Packrafting<br /> | rowspan=&quot;4&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| <br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Total on Water<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| '''77.1 km'''<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| '''100.0%'''<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Attraction<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|2 (of 5)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 4 (of 5)<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| River (RI)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Difficulty<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|3 (of 5)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 4 (of 5)<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Lake (LK)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;|Direction<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|Both ↓↑<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|Both ↓↑<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Fjord (FJ)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 77.1 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|100.0%<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Comment<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; | Hiking: ↑ Recommended to facilitate boat transfer<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Character<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; | Packrafting: ↑ Preferable due preceding section GPT74P Río Yelcho and predominant wind direction<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Challenges<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; | Valdivian Rain Forest, Sea Coast, Farmland, Settlers, Fjord Packrafting<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> [[File:perfil greater patagonian trail 76.PNG|frame|center|Profile of GPT76: PN Pumalin Sur]]<br /> [[File:perfil greater patagonian trail 76p.PNG|frame|center|Profile of GPT76: PN Pumalin Sur]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT74P_(Rio_Yelcho)&diff=112614 GPT74P (Rio Yelcho) 2023-12-03T01:01:01Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Season 2017/18 */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> * 2023-Nov-06 to 2023-Nov-09 / 3 days/ Packrafting/ Northbound / GPT 74P Rio Yelcho / Jordan Jennings<br /> <br /> My time on Rio Yelcho succeeded days of heavy rain. The river was swollen and very pushy. My guess is that it was moving at around 12km/h. Maybe more. I appreciated headwinds.<br /> <br /> Saying this, the biggest risks that I noted were the many (and usual) partially submerged trees. The first rapid, I easily portaged. There was even an eddy in perfect proximity in an adjacent creek flowing into Yelcho which allowed for an easy reentry. The second rapid, although I knew where it was on my gps, I passed without noticing. Perhaps it is more prominent with lower levels of water. <br /> <br /> On my final day, I got a beautiful sunny day after 6 days of rain. From my camp 2/3rds down the river, I watched the sun come up over a gentle mist rolling down the valley. When the sun hit the mist, it lit up a stunning golden. One of the most spectacular sights I have ever seen. <br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> * 2022-Jan-14 to 2022-Jan-15 / 1.5 days / Packrafting / NOBO / GPT 74P Río Yelcho / Tobias Schorcht<br /> <br /> Río Yelcho is a fast floating and wide River. It’s well documented in the Track files with a numerous of beautiful camps all along the way. There are 2 easy Rapids. The First one is class 2, if you take the more fun line and paddle through the waves on the right side. The chicken line (class 1) is on the very right side, where a portage is also possible. The second rapid is class 1 and leads you through some fallen trees. Enjoy!<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> * February 2018 / GPT74P: Rio Yelcho / Jan Dudeck &amp; Meylin Ubilla<br /> <br /> We just paddled down Rio Yelcho from Puerto Cardenas to the Pacific. It’s the perfect river for packrafting. There are two moderate rapids that were easy to walk around now with lower water levels. There are plenty of nice places to camp along the river. There is just one downside: the river is just 40 km long. Therefore you could float down the river in one day but to appreciate the river at most camp before you reach the sea.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT74P - Río Yelcho]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border-collapse:collapse&quot;<br /> |+'''GPT74P: Río Yelcho'''<br /> | colspan=&quot;4&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| GPT74P: Río Yelcho<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Hiking<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Packrafting<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;|Group<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | M: Sector Yelcho<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Total<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|'''-'''<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|'''-'''<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| '''51.4 km'''<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|'''11 h'''<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;|Region<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Chile: Los Lagos (X)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Trails (TL)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|-<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Start<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Puerto Cárdenas<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Minor Roads (MR)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Finish<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Chaitén<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Primary Roads (PR)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Status<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Published &amp; Verified<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Cross-Country (CC)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Traversable<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Jan - May (Maybe: Sep, Oct, Nov, Dec)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Bush-Bashing (BB)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|-<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Packraft<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Required<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Ferry (FY)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|-<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Connects to<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | GPT71, GPT73P, GPT76<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Investigation (I)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Options<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | 6 km (Variants Only)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Exploration (EXP)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|-<br /> |-<br /> | <br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Hiking<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Packrafting<br /> | rowspan=&quot;4&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| <br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Total on Water<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| '''51.4 km'''<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| '''100.0%'''<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Attraction<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 5 (of 5)<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| River (RI)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 47.2 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 91.7%<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Difficulty<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 3 (of 5)<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Lake (LK)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;|Direction<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|None<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|Only ←<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Fjord (FJ)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 4.2 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|8.3%<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Comment<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; | Hiking: Hiking not feasible<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Character<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; | Valdivian Rain Forest, Sea Coast, Farmland, Settlers, River Packrafting, Fjord Packrafting<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Challenges<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; | -<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> [[File:perfil greater patagonian trail 74P.PNG|frame|center|Profile of GPT74P: Río Yelcho]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT77_(PN_Pumalin_Norte)&diff=112613 GPT77 (PN Pumalin Norte) 2023-12-03T00:58:18Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Season 2018/19 */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> * 2021-Nov-30 / Hiking / SOBO / Option from Hornopiren to Chaiten (GPT77 and GPT76) / Meylin Elisabeth Ubilla González and Jan Dudeck<br /> <br /> With the land border between Chile and Argentina still closed hikers can not cross into Argentina on section GPT22 but can continue hiking southbound by walking section GPT78 from Rio Puelo to Hornopiren. See my previous post to this section.<br /> <br /> From Hornopiren two daily ferries carry passengers and cars to Caleta Gonzalo. The early ferry departs in Hornopiren at 8 am and a second ferry departs in Hornopiren at 10:30 am.<br /> <br /> Both ferries go to Leptepu from where a bus carries passengers (without a car) to Fiordo Largo (approx. 12 km). From Fiordo Largo a second ferry carries cars and passengers to Caleta Gonzalo. On the later ferry that departs at 10:30 in Hornopiren is the daily bus that departs in the morning in Puerto Montt and arrives at 16:00 in Chaiten.<br /> <br /> Hikers can sweaten this ferry trip by visiting the Termas de Porcelano about 4 km north of Leptepu. These natural hot springs are one of the finest in this region. This requires a boat transfer from Leptepu to Punta Porcelana and back (about 20’000 to 30’000 CLP per boat with up to 6 passangers). A nearby hospedaje offers accommodation (about 25’000 CLP per day per person including meals). Alternatively hikers may ask for permission to camp near the beach.<br /> <br /> On two days per week (Tuesday and Friday) a subsidized small ferry (passengers only) visits all the tiny settlements between Hornopiren and Leptepu including Punta Porcelana next to the hot spings what cuts cost of the boat transfer (only one boat transfer for about 15’000 CLP from Punta Porcelana to Leptepu). This subsidized ferry departs at 1 pm in Hornopiren and is called Serenade II.<br /> <br /> Contacts:<br /> <br /> Boat transfer between Leptepu and Punta Porcelana and accomodation near Punta Porcelana: Mabel +56-9-87696084<br /> <br /> Termas de Porcelana: Marlyn +56-9-90978870 (you may buy bread and homemade marmalade from Marlyn)<br /> <br /> Subsidized ferry Serenade II: Alejandro Jobis +56-9-87696084 (Tuesday and Friday only).<br /> <br /> Hikers the plan to walk section GPT76 from Caleta Gonzalo to Chaiten may take the early ferry that departs at 8:00 am in Hornopiren and check after arrival in Caleta Gonzalo if a boat is available to carry hikers towards Loyola to hike section GPT76 southbound.<br /> <br /> If there is no boat available in Caleta Gonzalo hikers best wait for the second ferry that arrives 2:30 h later. On the second ferry is the bus to Chaiten. From Chaiten hikers can walk section GPT76 northbound. Once in Loyola hikers will find more people with boats in this larger settlement so it is generally easier to arrange a boat transfer from Loyola to Caleta Gonzalo than the other way around.<br /> <br /> * 2021-Nov-30 to 2021-Dec-06 / 7 days / Packrafting / Hornopiren to Caleta Gonzalo, NoBo and SoBo (Leptepu-Termas de Porcelana-Cahuelmo-Laguna Abascal-Vodudahue) / Meylin Elisabeth Ubilla González and Jan Dudeck<br /> <br /> The often strong wind in these fjords makes packrafting challenging and more risky if attempted with an open packraft without spraydeck. Therefore a decked packraft is the recommended gear.<br /> <br /> The recommended travel direction is southbound due to the predominant wind direction.<br /> <br /> Packrafting should only be attempted if the weather forecast predicts calm weather or moderate wind only.<br /> <br /> On good-weather days with the typical daily wind pattern the morning from sunrise to about 10 am or noon is generally calm and them the “viento sur” kicks in that lasts till 5 pm or 7 pm. The “viento sur” quickly builds up high waves thats makes packrafting unpleasant or even impossible especially with an open packraft. Therefore it is essential to get up in the night and start paddling with the first daylight around sunrise. The best days for packrafting are overcasted calm days. On such days “viento sur” is less dominant.<br /> <br /> Two legs require paddling 20 km in one go between suitable camps (Pichanco to Termas de Cahuelmo / Termas de Cahuelmo to Huinay). So getting up early and racing against the clock is essential to not get pinned down by strong wind halfway.<br /> <br /> Highlights are the Termas de Cahuelmo, Laguna Abascal and the Termas Porcelana.<br /> <br /> Termas de Cahuelmo: Are located at the eastern end of the Fiordo Cahuelmo. The pools offer the perfect view into the fjord. A refuge facilitates cooking in rainy weather. There are several spots for tents in forest next to the hot springs.<br /> <br /> Laguna Abascal: Is location about 3 km east of the Termas de Cahuelmo. At low tide packrafters can walk 1 km cross-country to the trailhead, otherwise packrafters better paddle by packraft to the trailhead as the river arms quickly become flooded by the rising tide. From the trailhead a well maintained 2 km short trail leads to Laguna Abascal. Paddling this lake by packraft is highly recommended. The lake is surrounded by steep mountains with few beaches for camping. We slept one night in the refuge at the trail end next to Laguna Abascal and returned on the next morning to the Termas de Cahuelmo.<br /> <br /> Termas de Porcelana: Are located 4 km north of Leptepu and definitely worth a visit. You can ask for permission to camp next to the beach. Contact Marlyn +56-9-90978870 (you may buy bread and homemade marmalade from Marlyn)<br /> <br /> In Leptepu is a nice refuge right where the ferries arrive.<br /> <br /> From Leptepu packrafters may walk the road and enter the Fundo Pillan to get to Estero Pillan where you may camp next to the beach. The 12 km from Estero Pillan to Caleta Gonzalo are feasible against the predominant wind direction in a calm morning if leaving with sunrise. Strong tidal currents occur at narrow at the river delta of Rio Renihue. If needed leave the packraft and pull it against the current along the edge of the river delta.<br /> <br /> Sections GPT74P and GPT76 are only recommended in northbound direction (river flow direction and predominant wind). Therfore, after arrival in Caleta Gonzalo best take the bus to Chaiten that arrives with the ferry in Cateta Gonzalo around 15:00 and take a second bus to Puerto Cardenas after resupplying in Chaiten.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2021-Dec-03 to 2021-Dec-06 / 3 days / Packrafting / Hornopirén to Chaitén, SoBo (GPT77 and GPT76 Option 3) / Tobías Schorcht<br /> <br /> Did the stretch from Hornopirén to Caleta Gonzalo in a open Packraft in 3 days. The most challenging Parts are the Canal Comau and the Fjordo Largo. Watch carefully the tides and wind and stay close to the shore, since the weather can change quickly.<br /> <br /> From Caleto Gonzalo I did some roadwalking through Parce Pumalin, went up to the viewpoint Volcán Chaitén and took the Option 3,GPT76 down to Chaitén. I would Not recomment to do that. At least not southbounded. It requires a lot of Nalca bashing and climbing by the River Chaitén. I felt down once and hurt my shoulder badly. Better take the Option Jan recommented (Loyola, Chumelden).<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> * 2019-Dec-30 / Hiking / SOBO / Martín Lizondo<br /> <br /> At Hornopiren there are three ferries. Leaving schedule is at 9 am, 10:30 am and at 00 hs from Hornopirén. Reservation is made the day before or the same day since 8:30 am. There’s a bus between Leptepu and Fiordo Largo, with an obligatory boat transfer included to Caleta Gonzalo. The trip takes around 5 hours. Cost = CLP 5700.<br /> <br /> In Caleta Gonzalo there’s a camping with services.<br /> <br /> GPT 76: The boat to Loyola and Chumilden leaves Caleta Gonzalo on monday, tuesday, wednesday and friday. Conract: Roberto Btos +56 9 85564749. Cost = CLP 2400 per person. Also locals travel by small boats between Caleta Gonzalo to Loyola and Chumilden and can pick you up for some money.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> * 2018-Dec-03 to 2018-Dec-07 / GPT77P Fjordo Comau Leptepu / Packrafting Northbound / Meylin Elisabeth Ubilla González and Jan Dudeck<br /> <br /> We just investigate this packrafting section that connects Caleta Gonzalo with Hornopiren. This section consists of 90 km packrafting in four fjords and 10 km of road walk. <br /> When combined with GPT73P (Lago Yelcho), GPT74P (Rio Yelcho) and GPT76P (Canal Desertores) a more than 250 km long continuos packrafting traverse is formed with just 10 km walking. (We investigated these sections last season.)<br /> <br /> Pro: Amazing views all along the way, plenty of wild life (i.e. sea lions, pingüinos, dolphins) and up to four hot springs on the way. The highlight are the Baños Cahuelmo (fantastic natural hot springs from 35 to 40 degree C) that are hidden at the end of side fjord. I’m considering to rename this section to “Fiordos Termales”.<br /> <br /> Cons: This is without doubt one of the more challenging packrafting routes of the GPT. For safety reasons this traverse should only be attempted with:<br /> 1. a packraft that incorporates a spreydeck, <br /> 2. plenty spare food and<br /> 3. without a tight timeline. <br /> Depending on wind a packrafter might need to wait days for better conditions in a remote location without any alternative land exit route. We were extremely lucky and had 5 days with mostly sunshine and optimal wind conditions.<br /> The “salmoneras” (maned salmon cultures) don’t add to the beauty but provide a last resort if running into problems on the way.<br /> <br /> Wind: I’m unsure if there is a clearly preferable travel direction due to different predominant wind directions in these fjords. We choose to travel northbound based on the adjacent sections we did before and plan to do afterwards. If GPT77P is done uncombined with other sections southbound might be slightly beneficial.<br /> <br /> On a normal nice day expect relatively calm conditions between dawn and 10 o’clock in the morning. Than wind starts to pick up entering from the Pacific Ocean and following the directions of the fjords inland. Therefore be on the water paddling with the first light of the day. If you you leave after sunrise you might be too late. In poor weather you might not be able to advance for several days.<br /> Especially the two 21 km long legs from Huinay to Baños Cahuelmo and from the Baños Cahuelmo to Pichamco should be paddled each on one morning as there are no suitable campsites on the cost (only some inconvenient emergency exits).<br /> <br /> Tides: Tides are significant and tidal currents effect most fjords. Based on our measured speed tidal currents were typical 1 to 2 km/h; sometimes in favor, sometimes opposing.<br /> In two areas the tidal currents exceed clearly the packrafting paddle speed:<br /> 1. At the narrow formed by sediment cone of Rio Reñihue (km 7 to km 9 counted from Caleta Gonzalo). We only passed this narrow against the tidal flow by paddling hard and sailing with strong backwind through the shallower area.<br /> 2. The mouth of Fiordo Quintupeo (km 74 to km 76 counted from Caleta Gonzalo). Keep distance and paddle through more open water and not close to the cost especial when the tide is rising (you will otherwise be sucked into this fiord without being asked and may capsize in the strong eddies).<br /> <br /> Water: There are plenty of streams running down the mountains. Anyway fill up all your water containers at the beginning of the two longer traverses in case you need to seek refuge in between if the wind and waves make it impossible to reach the next suitable campsite.<br /> <br /> Access: There is a daily ferry between Hornopiren and Caleta Gonzalo.<br /> Southbound: 09:00 to 14:00<br /> Northbound: approx 16:00 to 21:00<br /> Alternative is the daily ferry between Hornopiren and Leptepu<br /> Southbound: approx. 10:30 to 13:00<br /> Northbound: approx. 14:00 to 16:30<br /> <br /> Accomodation: The settler in Huinay offers accommodation and food (15’000 CLP including dinner and breakfast per person). Apart from this there are no resupply possibilities on the route. You must rely on what you carry.<br /> <br /> Hornopirén: We stayed in a nice inexpensive cabaña (25’000 CLP) and left some extra gear with the owner Melania. / Mobile: +56-9-42317571 / EMail: melania1.2@hotmail.com (Spanish only!)<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> *2021 / Meylin Elisabeth Ubilla González and Jan Dudeck<br /> From Hornopiren two daily ferries carry passengers and cars to Caleta Gonzalo. The early ferry departs in Hornopiren at 8 am and a second ferry departs in Hornopiren at 10:30 am.<br /> Both ferries go to Leptepu from where a bus carries passengers (without a car) to Fiordo Largo (approx. 12 km). From Fiordo Largo a second ferry carries cars and passengers to Caleta Gonzalo. On the later ferry that departs at 10:30 in Hornopiren is the daily bus that departs in the morning in Puerto Montt and arrives at 16:00 in Chaiten.<br /> (...)<br /> Contacts:<br /> Boat transfer between Leptepu and Punta Porcelana and accomodation near Punta Porcelana: Mabel +56-9-87696084<br /> Termas de Porcelana: Marlyn +56-9-90978870 (you may buy bread and homemade marmalade from Marlyn)<br /> Subsidized ferry Serenade II: Alejandro Jobis +56-9-87696084 (Tuesday and Friday only).<br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> *2021 / Meylin Elisabeth Ubilla González and Jan Dudeck<br /> With the land border between Chile and Argentina still closed hikers can not cross into Argentina on section GPT22 but can continue hiking southbound by walking section GPT78 from Rio Puelo to Hornopiren. See my previous post to this section.<br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT77 - PN Pumalin Norte]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]<br /> <br /> {| border=&quot;1&quot; style=&quot;border-collapse:collapse&quot;<br /> |+'''GPT77: PN Pumalin Norte'''<br /> | colspan=&quot;4&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| GPT77: PN Pumalin Norte<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Hiking<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Packrafting<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;|Group<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | N: Fiordos Norte<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Total<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|'''1.0 km'''<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|'''0 h'''<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| '''101.6 km'''<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|'''28 h'''<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;|Region<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Chile: Los Lagos (X)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Trails (TL)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 0.3 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|0.3%<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Start<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Caleta Gonzalo<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Minor Roads (MR)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|1.0 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|100.0%<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 2.5 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 2.4%<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Finish<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Hornopirén<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Primary Roads (PR)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 8.1 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 8.0%<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Status<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Published &amp; Verified<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Cross-Country (CC)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Traversable<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Sep - May<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Bush-Bashing (BB)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|-<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Packraft<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | Very Useful<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Ferry (FY)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|(85.3 km)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|(98.8%)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|-<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Connects to<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | GPT76, GPT78<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Investigation (I)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Options<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; | 199 km (3 Options &amp; Variants)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Exploration (EXP)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|-<br /> |-<br /> | <br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Hiking<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Packrafting<br /> | rowspan=&quot;4&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| <br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Total on Water<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| '''90.8 km'''<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| '''89.3%'''<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Attraction<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 5 (of 5)<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| River (RI)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Difficulty<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 5 (of 5)<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Lake (LK)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| -<br /> |-<br /> | style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;|Direction<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#ffbfbf;&quot;|Both ↓↑<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|Both ↓↑<br /> | colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Fjord (FJ)<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;| 90.8 km<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#c2edfc;&quot;|89.3%<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Comment<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; | Hiking: Ferry<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Character<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; | Packrafting: ↑ Preferable due preceding section GPT74P Río Yelcho and predominant wind direction<br /> |-<br /> |style=&quot;background-color:#bfbfbf;&quot;| Challenges<br /> | colspan=&quot;7&quot; | Valdivian Rain Forest, Sea Coast, Hot Springs, Fjord Packrafting<br /> |}<br /> <br /> <br /> [[File:perfil greater patagonian trail 77p.PNG|frame|center|Profile of GPT77: PN Pumalin Norte]]<br /> [[File:perfil greater patagonian trail 77.PNG|frame|center|Profile of GPT77: PN Pumalin Norte]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT72_(Bajo_Rio_Futaleufu)&diff=112612 GPT72 (Bajo Rio Futaleufu) 2023-12-03T00:50:06Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Images */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> * 2020-Jan-06 to 2020-Jan-08 / 3 days / Hiking / SoBo / Martin Lizondo<br /> <br /> The first 40 km are minor road walking and enjoyable horse trails. According to locals, at 43°21'10&quot;S 72°03'22&quot;W the track isn’t possible to follow because the old trail doesn’t exist anymore, so one must cross the bridge and follow the primary road down to Palena.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT72 - Bajo Río Futaleufú]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT71_(Espolon)&diff=112611 GPT71 (Espolon) 2023-12-03T00:49:45Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Images */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> * 2019-Jan-01 to 2019-Jan-05 / 5 days / Hiking / SoBo / Martin Lizondo<br /> <br /> Long and beautifull route, if well demanding.<br /> <br /> The Río Turbio crossing isn’t a problem anymore as it has a bridge now at 42°52'51&quot;S 72°22'13&quot;W. There are two very difficult river crossings in this section. One is Río Michimahuida at 42°53'15&quot;S 72°20'19&quot;W. It’s possible to cross with water up to the hips. There live some settlers who can help you cross with horses. The next river is Río de los Mallines, which is 42°55'19&quot;S 72°16'57&quot;W. Much more strong and difficult, you may require help with horses too. The last settler of that valley is called “Chayo” Pezo and he lives with his son Jaime at 42°55'27&quot;S 72°16'32&quot;W. Very gentle, they offer bed, mate and bread.<br /> <br /> Near to the mountain pass the trail is confusing and becomes lost in some mallines, so fresh steps and wood cuts are the best signaling. Signs of old cattle use are visible everwhere if well the route was practically abandoned since the last volcano’s eruption. The valley of Espolon isn’t hard, is mostly well marked and there are many well built bridges. Remeber to say hello and spend some time chating with settlers. The don’t require money for their help.<br /> <br /> The Lagos de las Rosas trail is perfectly marked and daily used.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> *2019 / Martin Lizondo<br /> The last settler of that valley is called “Chayo” Pezo and he lives with his son Jaime at 42°55'27&quot;S 72°16'32&quot;W. Very gentle, they offer bed, mate and bread.<br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT71 - Espolón]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT70_(Alto_Rio_Futaleufu)&diff=112610 GPT70 (Alto Rio Futaleufu) 2023-12-03T00:49:17Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Images */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT70 - Alto Río Futaleufú]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT69_(Ushuaia)&diff=112609 GPT69 (Ushuaia) 2023-12-03T00:48:48Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Season 2022/23 */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> * 2023-04-28 to 2023-05-12 / Hiking / all directions / RR + various OH / Jakub &amp; Veronika<br /> <br /> We stayed in Ushuaia for quite a long time. We visited NP Tiera del Fuego, walked to Mirador Glaciar Martial, Cerro Medio and Laguna Esmeralda, hitchhiked to Puerto Almanza and finally walked Sendero Lucas Bridges from Estancia Haberton to Tolhuin. All was nice, all is recomendable Ushuaia's museums included, the last is the hardest:<br /> <br /> Sendero Lucas Bridges was build by famous settlerer and former missionary Lucas Bridges between 1900 and 1902 using traditional mountain path of Selk'nam people and curiously with their man power. We don't know whether it was an employment or a modern form of slavery, there are arguments for both. Bridges's descendants still run nearby Estancia Haberton, which can be visited during summer season (estancia, museum of marine mammals, restaurant). The sendero itself begins alongside a new puesto of vaqueros (ranch with cows built in 2019 based on a rented land of Estancia Haberton). The guys who work there are really nice and welcoming. You can ask there about the paths, if you need it.<br /> <br /> We crossed the pasture (unlocked wooden gates) and from there on it was easy to follow the way threw the gassing land. It is necessary to cross the fences a few times untill you get closer to the forest, there you need to follow the track files for a while, because the trail itself is misleading. After we crossed the river Varela (all crossings are recorded accurately at the original locations), and spent the first night in the camp on its shore. The camp looks quite new (first photo). From there the path was well marked with metal Fuegian flags and red and blue spots and leads next to Varela River and after along one of its left sources at the bottom of the valley. We followed that untill we approached another new camp (second photo). Then the trail leads to peatbog where the path disappears with the first beaver lagoon and from that moment on it is just cross-country through the peat. Sometimes we could see more marks but it doesn't help at all (the solution would be to record all the marks on the GPS but we didn't have time for that - if you can, do it!). We wanted to spent our second night at Rancho Lata, but we couldn't find it because of a dark (search around the track in the forest at km 37.2). We slept close to this point between the the trees that provided good shelter from the wind. The next day we turned right to the Paso Bridges. Here the path follows a stream that runs from the pass. When in the mountains, we found yellow and wooden pole marks that led us across the pass. The wind here was strongest we've met in Patagonia so take care! We spent night in the camp Bruzo with another beaver lagoon next to it (and sadly some rubbish as well). In the morning we lost marks again, so we needed to cross the peatbog again, thanks to frost it was harder then a day ago. It is better to go around the lagoon on its right side. We crossed river again over fallen trees, after in the forest we found marks again for a monet. Then some more cross-country untill we reached Rio Valdez. From there on the trail is recorded accurately and well visible with some recent maintainance. Last night we spent close to the river where are many good camping spots. Next day we crossed the river Valdez next to the puesto and soon we were on the mud road leading to Tolhuin. We spent on the path 4 nights. We walked slowly, but also it wasn't easy. Lot's of humidity, peatbogs, fallen trees and half of the path not well marked. But nature really amazing with interesting history (Selk'nam) and present (beaver introduction related demage and recent forest exploitation close to slowly expanding Tolhuin). It seems that not many people visit this sendero these days. Hopefully the protection status will change and more people will come!<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2023/04/21 - 2023/04/26 / 5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR and Option 6 / Christopher and Anna<br /> <br /> Tolhuin - Estancia Haberton - Laguna Esmeralda - Laguna Submarina - Ushuaia<br /> <br /> We arrived in Tolhuin in the evening and started walking for a couple of kilometers until we got a ride to km 7,6. We camped next to the dirtroad. <br /> <br /> At km 17,6 a sign indicates the beginning of the official hiking route &quot;Sendero the Lucas Bridges&quot;.<br /> This gave us hope for a good trail and this was the case until the puesto at km 18,5 which could provide a good shelter. Soon afterwards the good trail stopped and it seemed as if the trail hadn't been used for ages.<br /> The first couple of kilometers the old path was relatively easy to follow though. After around km 20 until the end of Valle Río Valdez the path disappeared multiple times and we walked a lot of CC stretches. From km 26,2 on you have either the option to follow the main route in the forest which includes climbing over and under LOTS of fallen trees. Or there's the option to walk along the river bed with LOTS of river crossings. We ended up doing a combination of both. We cannot say which one is faster. Both ways were equally slow for us.<br /> Generally, it's an extremely wet and muddy terrain, so wet feet are guaranteed. What contributes to this greatly are tons of beaver dams. Never have we seen so many of them and of such a size. The landscape of the whole valley is changed by the beavers. <br /> We camped at km 29 in the forest. In the forest along the valley are lots of camping possibilities.<br /> <br /> The next day we kept following the GPS and walked on a trail most of the time. There is still a sign from the official sendero there. Then one of the hardest CC parts started. We tried to follow the GPS since it worked well before that day, but there was pretty much no trail anymore. This peeked by being blocked by a huge beaver dam where we could still see an old mark of the sendero in the middle of the dams lake! We made a big detour around it, and the water of this wetland was painfully cold. Behind the dam is still a shelter of the official campsite &quot;Campamento Bruzo&quot;.<br /> There we found the trail again which had in a small muddy stream, but it got better the higher we got. From the pass on the trail is marked by poles. Up there walking was easy despite some snowfields.<br /> <br /> On the way down the trail got harder to follow again and the wetlands started. What probably used to be the &quot;Rancho Lata camp&quot; is still an ok shelter and afterwards the way is blocked by another huge beaver dam.<br /> <br /> We continued by mostly sticking to the river zick-zacking from side to side. At some point we found some animal trails that we followed.<br /> There is another shelter at km 47,7. Once the muddy wetland stopped walking became easier, but we still made lots of river crossings. Again there are lots of possible campsites along the river. We camped somewhere around km 45,5.<br /> The next day continued similarly until we saw the first fence at around km 50. There we climbed two fences and soon reached a dirtdoad that leads to the road RP33.<br /> It started to rain and we tried to hitchhike in either direction to get a connection and to check the weather. The exit of the sendero leads through the property of a company called &quot;Sintigas&quot;. A car from the company soon arrived and we asked them if there would be someone going the other direction and luckily there was. They invited us in for lunch, mate and medialunas until the driver was ready to go to Ushuaia. We were additionally lucky because &quot;Estancia Haberton&quot; is closed now due to the season being over and therefore almost no cars passed by.<br /> We got off the car at the parking lot of Laguna Esmeralda. We walked in the forest and soon pitched our tent once we found water. There are no camping forbidden signs there.<br /> <br /> The next day we left our backpacks in the forest and went to see Laguna Esmeralda. The trail was super muddy and slippery, even though they built some woodbridges in between. The Laguna was nice and the view from there was great. Walking down lots of people came our direction. Seems to be popular spot, despite the mud.<br /> <br /> The sky cleared and we continued to option 6. The trail up to Laguna Submarino is an official trail and finally we could walk on a good trail with just a few muddy sections. The option is really nice and passes two great waterfalls. At some point there was still snow, but nothing too bad.<br /> After we reached the Laguna we crosscountried up to the pass. The views up there were truly amazing.<br /> Down the other side of the pass was all CC. First some technical parts across rocks and gravel. It's probably better to stick to the downward left side. The we stuck to the river which worked out pretty well. Reaching the valley walking is quite easy, because it's all a marshy and mossy terrain but one doesn't sink in badly, so it's almost like walking in pillows.<br /> The wet floor just limits the potential campsites. We camped at km 8,6 between the trees left of the river.<br /> <br /> The last day was tough. The forest kept getting denser. We continued staying close to the river. At km 6,3 we deviated a bit more to the left of it because there is a forest free area indicated on the map. That was a short good part. Then it got really steep. The forest close to the river is partially really dense, directly at the riverbed are tons of fallen trees and the hillsides a super steep. We kept switching between these areas wherever it seemed best. We continued to walk in the direction of option 6b, because the forest was less dense around there. At km 0,56 of option 6b a pretty old overgrown dirtroad appeared out of nowhere. We were so happy to finally see some kind of path and followed it, although it was not visible from time to time. From aprrox. km 1,6 of option 6 there was an actual trail and once we reached the final hill we were rewarded by an amazing view of the beagle canal and its surroundings and our struggles of the day were forgotten.<br /> <br /> At km 110,8 we reached the RR of section 69 and followed the really good path. There are lots of visitors there and we hitchhiked from the parking lot at km 114 to Ushuaia.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2018/19==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> <br /> [[Archivo: | ]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT12_(Rio_Rahue)&diff=112608 GPT12 (Rio Rahue) 2023-12-02T19:14:22Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Season 2023/24 */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> * 2023-Nov-23 to 2023-Nov-27 / 4 days / hiking / NOBO / Regular Route and Option 3 to return to Lonquimay / Ana &amp; William<br /> <br /> We just finished part of 12 and overall it is a lovely hike though we might potentially be a bit too early in the season depending on your risk threshold.<br /> <br /> Heading NOBO the small pass after laguna verde is fine. Little snow but not bad. Next pass is a bit tough, lots of snow walking and lots of risky parts where there are hidden rivers/water ways under the snow and where cliffs of snow had broken off but we managed by being careful and taking time to judge. RR-CC-A {12} [68.1/68.5+2.9] is not passable we went on the route to the left of it. Scary but fine, you have to make your own route since it’s completely snowed over. Downhill is fine, snow is only on the south face of the mountain. Next day we skipped the pass and did a plateau crossing based on advice from a local, it was lovely, the trail is east to follow most of the way then getting across the plateau you can take any possible direction, no wrong way and it connects to the 12-03c. Coming down on though there are two tracks at 12-03c marker. OH-TL-I {12-03A} [0.9+3.4] is not a route. At least not now. It’s basically a river gorge and it’s not possible unless you can surf down waterfalls, so we scaled up almost completely vertical to meet the CC route that runs parallel. Might be possible when there is less snow melt though. The CC route we took was almost a completely verticals decent for 800 meters and I must say a bit terrifying. Clambering down on your butt/downhill rock climbing is not the hard part but if you are not careful and you don’t judge your path every few meters you can find yourself looking down a minimum 30-200 meter drop, so it’s mentally scary not knowing if you will get to the bottom. But we did. I would not advise it, instead I’d advise continuing on 12-03 past the lakes back to the normal route. Took us almost 3 hours of being very careful though. We then got to the first river. Many locals we met before told us the only way to ranquil is the balsa, but we didn’t fully understand what they meant till we got to the river. They meant Bulsa Rahue which is on the way to lonquimay. The first main crossing at Ford {12} [45.4/1039] is very deep and very fast. For us as beginners a big no go, but I honestly think for advanced that would be tough as well if not only very dangerous. We then moved back to lonquimay where for the first part of the trail the river had flowed over so much that there was no trail but then eventually the trail gains significant elevation over the river and it’s fine. We asked others we ran into on the way and they confirmed that it’s too early to pass the rivers, but again depends on the hiker I’m sure.<br /> <br /> Comment Jan Dudeck December 2023: The best route way to ascent from the Plateau is the trail in the South-West of the Plateau. That's the trail on which the horses are probably moved up and down. Starting with the Track Files 2024 the normal route up and down the Plateau will be OH-TL-V {12-03} [0.0+14.4]. I have cleaned up the routes on the North-Western edge of the Plateau. These exploration routes are best taken up and not down. Starting with the Track Files 2024 these exploration options are {12-03A}, {12-03B} and {12-03C} and all classified as Exploration Routes.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2023-Jan / Martin&amp;Helena<br /> <br /> On regular route (SOBO) after puesto at 62.9, there is another puesto after approx 1km. It’s situated right on the road, soon after start of CC and before Gpt12-G End and it’s guarded by 4 or 5 agressive dogs. It was impossible to go around, so we were continuing with our trekking poles in front of us but dogs started to attack us and in the end I was bitten by one of them. The owner was there too but basically did nothing and dogs were absolutely out of her control.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2023-Mar-01 to 2023-Mar-05 / 5 days / Hiking / NOBO / RR / Iris, Alexis <br /> <br /> Arrived in Liucura late in the 28th Feb afternoon by hitchhiking our way from Lonquimay. There is also a bus that leaves at 7:30 PM. We shared our plans with the carabineros and asked for a place to pitch and he sent us near the river, after the truck &quot;parking&quot; (-38.64806, -71.08856 - really nixe and private spot). There are 3 shops in Liucura with supplies and we even had a nice diner for 6k each at the Hospedaje. <br /> Started early the next day with 12-P until 12-R. This way we avoided to climb any fence. There are plenty of paths going upward so we ended up not following the one from the tracks but something that joined the top quite directly. Then we enjoyed our walk on the ridge. We continued for a while and camped at Laguna Escondida. The marked point is in the wood, a bit far away from the water but wind protected. We decided to go much closer to the water and met our two first GPT hikers going southbound on the trail! <br /> <br /> The next day we took 12-H to avoid the aggressive dogs and then sticked to the RR until Camp {12} [51.6/1293]. The descent in the forest (RR-CC-A {12} [52.3/52.8+2.2]) was a bit painful as it is steep and without path. Following the OSM route is not better.<br /> <br /> Day 3, we followed the RR until Laguna Marinanqui (Lake, Camp {12} [33.9/1281]) where we camped. Then we met Reyes, a local from Peluhue who was waiting a group of &quot;gringo&quot; since the previous day. We spent the night here with him, tasting our first cooked pinones. <br /> <br /> On day 4, we hiked to Camp {12} [20.4/1625] (Banos Coyucos). All the fords of Rio Pulul were easy. On the trail we crossed a group of horseriders (Reyes' gringo) that got lost in the mountains and were on their way to the lake. Then we had our first pinata moment : we found an araucania and hit a ball with a branch for a rain of pinones. At the bayos, we met two persons preparing an asado for the group of riders and an other group of people just staying for a bath. Both pools are great, the second one (the smallest and a bit more down) is a bit warmer. We got invited and fed by the riders (smoked cerdo, tortillas al rescaldo, goat asado...)! They eventually left and we were alone in the bayos for the night. <br /> <br /> On Day 5, we hiked until the junction with GPT11 but without taking options 1 or 2 following the advices of the previous hikers. Then we directly continued to GPT11.<br /> On a side note, on most of the section, you will walk on well marked trails that are easy to follow. It contains multiple extremely scenics moments, at least one highlight per day (several for the last one). Definitely worth it to hike! There are no more tabanos at this period of the year, but indeed many wasps ! <br /> <br /> <br /> *2023-Feb-12 to 2023-Feb-16 / 4.5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR / Natalie+Tomàš<br /> <br /> Combined 10+11+12 continued mid-day from 11.<br /> Started mid-day at Banos de Pelehue, Tomáš explored the banos, there was a pool that had some cold water flowing to it, which is diverted, so the temperature should be nicely warm. However, it resulted in smelly hands for two days despite soap. The first hot springs waypoint is wrong but the location is very scenic. We continued to Banos Coyucos for the night and luckily arrived just before a storm hit.<br /> The Banos Coyucos were not &quot;great&quot;. The first one with the A-frame roof is not that warm, more like stale bathwater, but the second further down with only a partial roof is much better. We spent the stormy night in the second one so more heat would have been nice but I am sure it's a good temperature for day time bathing.<br /> <br /> Day2<br /> Late start but great trail from the Banos to the marshy flats. I met Rosè from the puesto right at the beginning of the flats, she was very easy to get along with and had a good sense of humor. I would recommend looking for her if you were in need of help. She also helped show me how to avoid the marsh by sticking slightly high on the side of the hill, there was a little bit of a trail. The next plateau up was forgettable, accidentally walked along variant A for too long before dropping down to the RR. The RR is much faster than the side hill that hops from one puesto to the next on variant A. The rest of the way to Laguna Marinanque was enjoyable, definitely leave your sandals on at the bottom for the multiple river crossings. <br /> At this time of year Marinanque was still boggy but caused no problem's. However, I would be careful at the Northside not to get stuck in the bog, it looked very deep. We slept at the abandoned puesto 37.7 (No Water).<br /> <br /> Day3<br /> Fast and lovely trail to camp51.6. After then and up the steep grass hill it is CC. I wouldn't rely on the GPX here as it i basically just straight up. The last water source before the hill 52.2 makes a nice rest. Just to clarify once again, there is no water at the first plateau; camp54.5. However, the water at the small lakes on the main plateau did not look awful, just goose poo around.<br /> Up and over the main/last pass is straightforward but the other side is still boggy. The first camp was not good but if you walked up the bog directly on top of it there was a source of clean water. We slept at the second camp; 59.5, which felt the best of all three, there was water, a little muddy but the third camp looked dry. <br /> <br /> Day4. <br /> You can make a small short cut on a wide &quot;road-trail&quot; just before the RR turns off from the main trail towards puesto 61.8. Crossing the bottom valley here is still very boggy. The lady at puesto 62.9 was very welcoming, offering food/chocolate/coffee. She had some angry dogs but they behaved well once she called them. The next puesto up from her had the dogs that bit a past GPT hiker. They were indeed the aggressive type but the lady tied the worst one up in order to let us pass. If she hadn't we were going to skirt around on the right into the forest to hopefully avoid them and or you could descent back down the hill and go far left.<br /> Like Veronica said there is some water at -38.41178, -70.99125, not tasty but not filtering it had no consequences. At the intersection of RR and J I met some friendly carabinieros that were going into Argentina to fetch some Chilean horses, they were taking on a good trail. From the water source I just described and towards Maximiliano's puesto I did not enjoy the trail, didn't make much sense and felt I was zig zaging in the valley for no good reason. <br /> Day got better once meeting &quot;Maxi&quot; and his son. Jan, if you are reading this Maximiliano says hi and has only good things to say about you. I told him you were off in the mountains somewhere but hopefully will come back to visit again. He wanted to make sure people were good to us and luckily we told him we only had pleasant encounters. His neighbor down the road (Seguro?) was also extremely friendly. The rest of the way to Laguna Verde was fast, a mixture of old roads and easy trails and a CC bit. The first puesto at Laguna Verde was abandoned and we slept in the grass beside it. It was very windy and the water in the lake was very dirty but luckily we found a small dribble of flowing water near the puesto. In the morning everything was covered in frost and slightly frozen, our first freeze.<br /> <br /> Day5<br /> Our final day was easy, the ridge got a little tedious (but was surprisingly beautiful in parts) and I was very happy it wasn't a hot day because otherwise it would have been very dry and uncomfortable. We managed to avoid all barbed wire fences (even though they could be jumped because 3/4 of the fence is cow panels and just the top two lines are barbed). When you are walking down from the trail from the ridge instead of turning left and jumping over your first fence we just went straight down towards the main road (aim for this open gate -38.63510, -71.09298), it is on the first dirt road marked on OSM branching from the main road when going into Chile from the border after Liucura. There were a couple big dogs at the end but they were locked up. Only 1km of road walking back to Liucura, past a nice looking restaurant, and or you could just start hitching to Lonquimay if desired. <br /> We agree that you could technically resupply in Liucura, it was a very happening border stop with fruit and vegetables, sold out bread and then all the other basics- but no canister fuel obviously. <br /> The bus situation from here is confusing as the shop owners and locals all say different things. What I gathered was that there was a bus going to Lonquimay at ~7, ~12 and ~4pm but I don't think it runs every day. Hitching to Lonquimay looked easy but we hitched to Icalma (more difficult) even though supposedly there was a bus to Icalma at 730/8/830?pm. Once again I don't think the bus runs everyday or weekends, possibly only Mon- Wed- Friday.<br /> In Icalma that was the case, if going to Lonquimay or Melipeuco there was only a bus Mon,Wed &amp; Friday. Sadly I forget the exact times but I remember the first bus was very early, leaving ~6am and then a bus to lonquimay at 3pm. Icalma had lots of little minimarkets and cheap accomodation, slept in cabana for 20mil/night (10mil each)<br /> <br /> Notes:<br /> <br /> -If I was to do this trip again I wish I had more time to spend at the puestos.<br /> <br /> -The picoñes are falling, also wish I doubled up on fuel in order to cook them. We tried mashed picoñes in Icalma and they were delicious!<br /> <br /> -The wasps have replaced horseflies, never got sting but got bit. <br /> <br /> -Many of the trails this time of year were &quot;dirt-dust&quot; but on the bright side most bogs were avoidable. <br /> <br /> -No problems with water, only had to carry extra water on the last day after the final water stop at 87.6. <br /> <br /> -luckily only had a few bad days of smoke, mainly when we were close to Trapa Trapa. <br /> <br /> <br /> *2023-Jan-18 to 2023-Jan-21 / 4 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR starting from the termas de pelehue / Will <br /> <br /> I merged onto section 12 at the termas de pelehue, where I was immediately greeted by a group of 20ish condors taking off from a patch of grass in the valley. My pace got even slower, watching them fly low around me.<br /> <br /> I went on to camp at the Banos Coyucos, easily my favorite hot springs so far. Perfect temperature, clean, but still felt natural. There were two groups of Chilean hikers there, all super friendly and generous.<br /> <br /> The next day of walking through the valleys was beautiful and pretty fast. A bit before the big climb I had my first unpleasant encounter, with a group heading down the road by ATV. The leader stopped and asked if I had authorization to hike there, I said that I didn't know that I needed it. He seemed to think that was obviously a lie. He became somewhat friendly once I explained my plans and after discovering that I was foreign. He gave me some direction advice then set off. In hindsight I figure he must have been a landowner. I did see quite a few littered beer cans afterwords, maybe he was trying to prevent that.<br /> <br /> The steep climb was tough, and I ended up camping pretty late up top. In terms of water I only saw a few muddy puddles though I didn't look very hard. There were a few ponds the next morning just over the hill. <br /> <br /> The rest of the section was easier than I expected, and not so interesting to me. I should have carried more water on the final 20km. If you want to skip the barbed wire fences you'd have to take variant R at the end of the ridge walk. I thought I could skip them with variant S but most of them were before the turnoff so I ended up following the regular route the whole way. Thankfully they were solid and pretty easy to climb.<br /> <br /> No luck hitching out of Liucura so I spent the night. There were no buses on Sunday but someone at my hostel gave me a ride to Lonquimay the next day. If you're continuing on then Liucura could work for a basic resupply, but I'm planning on relaxing a bit then skipping ahead. See busesbiobio.cl for the bus schedule out of Lonquimay.<br /> <br /> I'm still one day behind the same set of footprints I've been following all the way since section 7. I guess I'll never catch up.<br /> <br /> <br /> *2023-Jan-15 to 2023-Jan-18 / 4 days / Hiking / SOBO / Termas de Pelehue (junction GPT 11, option 1 and GPT 12) - Liucura / Anna &amp; Christopher <br /> <br /> We connected section 11 and 12 and started at Termas de Pelehue around km 9.<br /> The first day the path was easy to find most of the time and the views were great. The canyon to Laguna Marinanqui is very beautiful. We camped after the last rivercrossing before the Laguna.<br /> <br /> To path around the Laguna involved some bushbashing and muddy ground.<br /> Until the CC ascent the path was good. The ascent itself is pretty tiring. We could not find water at the point indicated by Véronica so we continued until the first small Laguna on the plateau. That was a great spot to camp and the Laguna has clear water.<br /> <br /> The following part is not hard to navigate and continues with spectacular views.<br /> Ascending the next hill at appr. km 67 we followed a good animal path on towards the west of the hill (instead of the CC part of the RR), next to an accesible creek.<br /> Easy trails the rest of the day. We camped at the water waypoint [78.4/1775] between Laguna Escondida and Laguna verde.<br /> <br /> The next part is great and easy until towards the end of the ridge after the last ascent, where the path finding gets harder with some bush bashing parts. On the last kilometers we descended until the main road to avoid climbing barbed wire fences.<br /> The shopowner of the resupply in Liucura offered us to camp in his garden.<br /> The next morning we hitchhiked to Lonquimay. The buses from Lonquimay to Temuco leave at 8 am and 12:30 pm, not sure if there is also a later bus.<br /> <br /> <br /> *2022-Dec-25 to 2022-Dec-30 / 5.5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR (combined with GPT11 via GPT11-02) / Véronica <br /> <br /> Route: Junction at km 12.9 where GPT11-02 meets with GPT12 - Baños Coyucos - Laguna Marinanqui - Pehuenche Extortioner valley - Laguna Escondida - Liucura <br /> <br /> Absolutely beautiful section. Really loved the cross-country bits on high plateaus and ridges, amazing views. I did not have any navigation issues. I met no one 4 days in a row. <br /> <br /> I connected GPT11 Option 2 with GPT12, so I missed the Pelehue hot springs. I did find a good creek at the &quot;water&quot; waypoint at 15.9 km, not dry like what Veronika and Jo found last year. I really enjoyed the camp at Baños Coyucos in an araucaria forest, and the hot springs there were great too! Perfect temperature, and not as dirty as I thought they might be. <br /> <br /> Lots of boggy cow pastures along RR-TL-V {12} [25.6+07], had trouble finding any sort of trail there. Enjoyed the trail along Río Pulul in the canyon with all the fords. All the river crossings were easy, and I found many lovely potential camp spots on that stretch. <br /> <br /> Just north of Laguna Marinanqui (where you have the option to take 12-C), there is a large marsh to contour like others have mentioned. I managed to cross without getting all muddy by closely following the regular route. <br /> The trail kind of disappears after the junction with 12-E, but following the GPS it's not too hard to reach the base of the big CC climb to the high plateau. This climb is steep, but not dangerous - you climb on grass and dirt (no scree). There was no water at the &quot;Water ?&quot; waypoint, but I found a hidden spring nearby at S 38° 21.247', W 071° 04.140'. There are also shallow lagunas up on the plateau you could get water from. After the passes coming downhill into the Pehuenche Extortioner valley, the three campsites in a row there were quite waterlogged from snowmelt. The trail was a river in a couple places there too. Lots of squishy walking, wouldn't be ideal to camp there right now. <br /> <br /> The next CC stretch after the Extortioner valley is awesome on a rounded ridgetop. There is a nice meadow and good water source shortly before reaching the next pass. From this pass all the way to Maximiliano's puesto is a good horse trail, not cross-country. <br /> <br /> After the &quot;water&quot; waypoint at 87.6 km, after Laguna Verde, there is no more water until Liucura, so I filled up in order to dry camp on the ridge further along. All the subsequent CC stretches until Liucura have paths running along most of them, makes walking easier :) The final ridge walk starting at km 95.3 is fantastic, and there's lots of sheltered areas up there too where you could camp if you have enough water. <br /> <br /> I followed the regular route all the way to Liucura (ended up climbing over 4 different barbed wire fences once I was off the ridge). Hitched into Lonquimay and will be skipping down to Section 16.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2022-Feb-14 to 2022-Feb-15 + 2022-Mar-07 to 2022-Mar-10 / Hiking / SOBO / RR / Veronika &amp; Jo <br /> <br /> The first day we continued from GPT11, starting at Termas de Pelehue (where you can camp, though you have to search around for non-sulfury water pushing up through the meadows). We continued along the border with Argentina. Great all-around views, decent trail instead of CC most of the time, no water at S 38° 09.380', W 071° 01.300' &lt;- in agreement with Molly and Melissa.<br /> <br /> We escaped to Ranquil in the south to resupply, and got back three weeks later, taking the afternoon bus from Lonquimay (mon-wed-fri, bus early the morning and in the afternoon). Slept in the refugio in the valley east of Ranquil. The road between Ranquil and this eastern valley is almost fully MR instead of TL.<br /> <br /> Continued RR until the Pehuenche Extortioner valley, but took optionals 12-H and 12-5 to arrive at Pehuenco in time to take the bus Friday morning at 08:00 (also mon-wed-fri) to make sure we made it to our plane in Puerto Montt on Sunday. We skipped Laguna Escondida and Laguna Verde with pain in our hearts :(<br /> <br /> We saw the camp site at 12-H and asked around in the roundabout way (&quot;do you know a camp site?&quot;) standing next to it, but no positive answer came. We camped at the pass before Maximiliano's puesto instead, where there is a little water turning into the usual cow meadow. Met Maximiliano there :)<br /> <br /> <br /> *2022-Feb-21 / 5 days / Hiking / NOBO / RR + OH 02 / Romain <br /> <br /> Regular Hiking Path :<br /> - There are a lot of Araucaria trees. I managed to save 2 days of food just by harvesting piñones on the floor following the path. I would recommend to not rely on it because it depends on the period, but there was plenty.<br /> <br /> - the path after Laguna Marinanqui wasn't easy to follow because it was like a swamp but once I manage to cross this humid part it was all good<br /> <br /> - Camp on Ford {12} [32.6/1299] (Rio Pulul), great place with lot of space, grass, dry wood, almost no wind when I camped there, I really appreciated this place <br /> <br /> - I did the multiple fords without removing my water shoes because there are close and it worth it<br /> <br /> - Camp {12} [17.0/1794] : I had to stay one day there due to raining conditions. Looking at the places after, it's to my mind the last place to camp before starting going uphill, it would be too windy and too cold to camp farther. During the rainy day the temperature dropped to less than 10° I think, I had to stay in my duvet. And during the night I got ice on my tent, it wasn't extreme but it was good to be well equipped. <br /> <br /> - Option 11-02 and 11-02B to reach back the regular route was the best part I did of my entire trek, with a condor flying 10-15m above me, spectacular landscapes, ... I really recommend it but only in stable good conditions because it was really really windy, and going northbound otherwise 11-02B would be very demanding because of the sand.<br /> <br /> - the hot spring {11-02B} [1.2/2113] and more generally the place with vapors and boiling water at some places and many condors flying around you is very impressive<br /> <br /> - Nobo : Demanding clampering, in good weather only : everything is in the title and the other commentaries well describe it. I hadn't felt really in danger following the track but I was much tense and aware of everything. It's definitely not a good idea to be there not in good conditions. And you need to have time to do it in one time, there is no place adapted to camp until the pass {11} [27.6/2174] and event just after it's still much wind, and at some point the earth/sand soil make you hike very slowly. I thank the people who wants through before me, their tracks were much helpful to see the way and to not slip in the sand. Except these points the place is beautiful and I appreciated it a lot in the continuity of the part before.<br /> <br /> <br /> Option 12-02 :<br /> <br /> - 11-05G : the road from Lonquimay start with concrete and become gravel at a certain point, but lot of people use it and without hitchhiking many proposed me to take me<br /> <br /> - transition 11-05G to 12-02 : the road leading to the ferry is really smaller than the main one, I missed it because I wasn't enough attentive to that<br /> <br /> - Ferry : the indicated opening time are : 8:30-17:30 from Monday to Friday, 8:00-10:00/16:00-18:00 on saturday ; I arrived there at 13:30 on the Monday and there was nobody to move it, fishermen told me to wait for a car but they seem to say there should be one until 1 or 2 hours so I crossed the river going up, water reached my hips and I arrived in a farmer property, people were very friendly, but should I do it again I would cross going down (easier to reach + no problem with entering a property)<br /> <br /> - 12-02 continues by crossing the river on a beautiful wood hanging bridge (12-02A continues straight), I appreciated this path with plenty of rabbits, aracauria trees and beautiful landscapes. I slept close to the river in a flat field with apple and peach trees. It seemed people are used to camp there with lot of campfire marks, really windy the day I camp there<br /> <br /> <br /> *2022-Jan-10 / 6 days / Hiking / NOBO / Molly og Melissa<br /> <br /> Amazing section with great views. Definitely don't skip the two high parts unless the weather is bad. We didn't find it to be dangerously steep except for a few metres on the descent before Laguna Marinanqui, which were uncomfortable.<br /> Tábanos were better than expected, it was pretty windy. We also brought a fly swatter. It was very effective for killing those who sticked around during breaks, and gave a lot of satisfaction<br /> <br /> We took the alternative route to the east right out of Liucura due to the notes of other people. Shortly after, we saw a path climbing the mountain, and took that. Big mistake - the path disappeared quickly and left us to climb steeply through dense bamboo. We learned the lesson of staying close to the route, and this payed off. Often, when the route is marked as CC, a path exists that follows the route closely.<br /> On one of the CC sections we met a man with his animals, who wanted to know what we were doing. He said that we needed a permission from someone in Liucura to be there, and that many people came by and disturbed the animals. When we apologized and said we didn't know and that we'd go on to Laguna Verde he didn't pursue the subject and seemed friendly enough.<br /> We ended up camping on the beach by Laguna Escondida.<br /> On the descent from there to the Pehuenche Extortioner valley we passed a puesto not marked on the GPS. It seemed empty, and the gravel road was right next to it. There were some very aggressive dogs that we gave a shock, though, they quickly surrounded us. The owner got them calmed down a bit, but one of them to still took a bite of my sleeping mat on the bottom of my bag while we were calmly talking to the owner. <br /> After the Pehuenche Extortioner valley you climb a pretty tall mountain pass to an amazing high plain. The descent from here is, as others have written, very steep, not too difficult but definitely better down than up. From there you have a very nice easy trail with good views almost all the way to Laguna Marinanqui, but at the river crossing and every time there is a puesto of trail the trail diverges, and you often have to follow the less obvious trail, so it pays off to look at the GPS often.<br /> After Laguna Marinanqui we just kept our wading shoes on for the six river crossings, it worked very well. None of the crossings were difficult in any way.<br /> We camped at the Coyuco hot springs. It's a nice enough camp site with a little bench and table under the Aucaria trees, but not too many big sites for the tent. The hot springs are a little bellow, covered by some planks. They are pretty dirty but a perfect temperature, no views either.<br /> <br /> The last big ascent nearing the Argentine border was amazing and should definitely not be skipped unless the weather is bad! There is a small CC section, but most of the way through the pass there is a nice trail - stick to the route and you will find it! It lasts all the way to the gravel road to Ranquil. There is a boarder post, and a pretty flat grassy area where it would be possible to camp on the Argentinian side of the border, next to a stream. In general, plenty of water all the way to the second hot springs. From there, nothing until you reach the river in the bottom. The hot springs are in an amazing area, and would be a beautiful campsite with great views, bit requires clear and calm water. We didn't see the hot springs ourselves, but we met some Chilean tourists who liked them. <br /> <br /> Water:<br /> Generally, water is plentiful, but with some comments. We started from Liucura on midday on a very hot day, and having read about plentiful water we brought a liter each. However, there was nothing until the first waypoint, which we couldn't reach, so we ended up going down to the river in the eastern valley and camping there.<br /> Furthermore, on the ascent from the Pehuenche Extortioner valley where there are three campsites on a row, the first didn't have water and the second only very little.<br /> On the high plain where it's marked water? there was water, but very still and dirty. Would only drink it if very desperate. Shortly after joining the path after the descent there are very nice streams.<br /> We arrived in Ranquil in the afternoon on a Sunday, and hitched to Lonquimay - very challenging though, with three rides and some walking in between<br /> <br /> <br /> *2021-Nov-23 / Hiking / NOBO / RR / Marc Anthony<br /> <br /> After i finished GPT 3 i headed down south to GPT 12 in order to hike the next couple of groups in a northbound direction since it’s more suitable to hike from down here this time of year compared to the more northern sections<br /> <br /> It was love at first sight! I was so thrilled to escape the exposed terrain of the north and come down here to this beautiful part of the country, where you can enjoy the nice shade from the Arucania trees. Got the bus from Lonquimay to Liucura at 14:00 and started my trip on the optional route east of the RR to avoid previously mentioned barbed wire fence.<br /> Later I climbed up to the mountain ridge and followed the RR.<br /> <br /> After my first night I was woken up by the sound of a bunch of cows running around my tent, and a stuck my head out to find a Pehuenche man on a horse wearing a balaclava, looking at me. Was very surprised at first but he was a nice guy who was just curious about me. We took some photos of each other and I got to ride around on his horse.<br /> I general I found water to be plenty, the weather good and the trail in good condition. There are although some very steep sections every now and then where you have to be careful. I was also hit by a hail storm during a mountain pass but luckily it quickly passed.<br /> <br /> At laguna Marinanqui towards the end of the section I met a group of Chileans from Victoria who were out on a weekend fishing trip. We drank a few beers together while catching some salmon in the Laguna and after i joined on the walk back to Ranquil. We took GPT option 1 to skip the nothern hump. And on arrival at Ranquil they gave me a ride back to Lonquimay. Great fun!<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> *Feb 2020-Feb / Hiking / NOBO / Lauric<br /> <br /> Took optional #002 east of regular trail to avoid climbing over barbed wire. It is an easy road. Then we climbed up on the ridge with optional #003. Not exactly on the track but we found a trail going up. On the ridge it's amazing with 360 views. Easy walking too. Optional down in the valley would be easier but less rewarding. Continued our way to the pass 1920m (after taking mate at Maximiliano's puesto). At the pass we left the regular trail to end up on a descending road. Easy descent to optional 12-04-#001 and easy walk in the valley. From there we avoided the extortioner and up to the second pass (2120m). The views are amazing. Very steep and CC descent. Wouldn't have liked to go up this part. From the pass to laguna Marinanqui is pretty boring but easy part. Laguna is very beautiful and a great place to camp. North of laguna is ankle deep in cowshit. We got up by the river to the termas. There are 2 pools. Then we headed town to Ranquil to finish the section. Carabineros let us camp on their field. Bus to Lonquimay Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 6AM and 5PM in front of the police station.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2020-Jan-24 / 3.5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR mostly / Frank <br /> <br /> At the high lakes I continued on RR-CC-I@12-57.1+7.5, a spectacular traverse but at the end there is a very steep &amp; slow descent on rock, scree &amp; sand. I would consider this descent to be dangerous &amp; best avoided by taking the Pehuenche Extortioner variant. After Maximilian's Puesto I took OH-MR-V@12-03-#001out to the road then into Liucura. At least 2 places to stay there, they both have a restaurant. Also a cafe &amp; 3 shops, you can resupply easily.<br /> <br /> <br /> *2020-Jan-23 / Hiking / SOBO / RR Ending at ranquil carabineros / Ty &amp; America <br /> <br /> Just hiked to The hot spring from the top of section 11. Not much to report. Hot springs were luke warm. There’s some sort of makeshift hut covering them. Nice camp there though. We got a hitch when nearing the carabineros to Lonquimay. Wouldn’t usually count on this though. Definitely middle of nowhere. Apparently the bus comes at 5.<br /> <br /> <br /> *2020-Jan-17 / 3.5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR + OH 03 / Martina &amp; Ivo <br /> <br /> Start: Termas de Pelehue, End: Primary road towards Lonquimay<br /> Amazing section. The Termas de Pelehue are gone due to the lack of maintenance. The second hot springs the same, but the fumaroles above are quite impressive! The third hot springs down in the valley are great, there are several pools just below the camp. After the second pass (2'180) we decided not to do the investigation route as it looked pretty uncomfortable to us. The descent after the third pass (1'920) to Maximiliano's puesto was a nice trail, not at all CC. There our longing for a beer was so huge that we took the optional route 12-03-#001 through the beautiful araucaria valley. Believe it or not, shortly before arriving at the primary road there came a bus, taking us to the junction, from where a connecting bus to Lonquimay was leaving, everything within 10 minutes :-) Excellent resupply and accommodation in Lonquimay, funny town.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 15-Jan-2020 / 3.5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR / Maddie &amp; Tom <br /> <br /> Spectacular section, some of the best scenery we have seen so far! Some of the ascents and descents are quite steep and technical. There is lots of loose rock and no easy track to follow. It was quite windy and all the high passes are dangerous in poor weather. The trail is also overgrown and difficult to follow in some sections. This makes it slower than you might expect, however it is perfectly doable. Good resupply in Licura at the end of the section, as well as nice places to stay (around 20000 pesos for a double). <br /> <br /> <br /> * 9-Jan-2020 / 5 days (GPT11 + GPT12) / Hiking / SOBO / RR + OH 2 Matus &amp; Anna<br /> <br /> We combined sections 11 and 12. It took us 5 days including one zero because of weather. Patagonia showed us bit of it's potential in these two sections. <br /> All walked trails were in good condition and CC sections pretty easy to navigate. In the sadle of section 11, because of strong wind, poor visibility and fresh snow and ice we were forced to take optional to the valley. There is a big snowfield, I don't recomend sliding on it all the way. It the lower parts there were big holes into the stream. <br /> From Ranquil we took optional #002 because we didn't want to climb back up. Uphill is more a minor road, downhill nice trail. <br /> After a laguna we took a optional to the Pass 2180 and road around the Pehuenche Extortioner. We needed to get down from elevation ASAP bacause of wind. We passed puesto early in the morning and no one was around. After rainy day everything above 2000m was white. We took trail to pass 1920m which was just with bit of fresh snow and then took minor road #001 down to valley. So I have no idea about the rest of the trail.<br /> Edit: adding a picture from the last sadle 1920m, we did after &quot;rainy&quot; day.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2019-Dec-06 / 10 days / Hiking / NOBO / RR from Liucura without the northern slope, so we went directly to Ranquil from S38°12.723' W71°05.208'/ Sophie &amp; Hendrik <br /> <br /> In total we were 11days on the trail, of which we spend 1.5 in the tent due to bad weather. The route is free except for one fort, but there is a workaround. Also we had a couple of navigation problems, which cost us several hours. See recent alerts and suggestions.<br /> <br /> We liked: The quickly chang landscape and its huge variety, beautiful cinematic views, funny animals, that water was always available, bathing in the rivers, beautifully blooming plants.<br /> <br /> We did not like so much: The problems we encountered due to navigation mistakes, the hailstorm on the mountain ridge, beercans that people drop on the paths.<br /> <br /> We bluntly hated: The amount of horse flies. In the northern part we were not able to make one step without having at least five buzzing arround our faces. This army of blood suckers was sent by a source of pure evil to annoy hikers.<br /> <br /> The following is a chronological accumulation of all our observations made in the last 11 days. Note for navigation difficulties that we walked northbound.<br /> <br /> - The most southern CC part direclty north of Liucura is now bordered by fences. You have to follow the path and then go left through a gate. The gate on the western fence is some 80m further south than you would expect. It was locked and we had to carefully (barbed wire) climb over it. It might be a lot easier to take the optional route in the east to get up the ridge.<br /> <br /> -We were unable to find and follow the path at S38°24.881' W71°00.281' down to the valley. We endet up on a path a little further south. However, this path starts to lead further and further south, so that at some point we startet to ge back to the original path through the woods, which did cost several hours.<br /> <br /> - Getting up the mountain at S38°24.450 W71°01.871' we startet ca 300m further north than indicated by the CC route due to fences and rivercrossing opportunities in the valley. (We thought CC means come up with your own route anyway.) At ca 1720m of altitude, still 300m north of the indicated route we found a good looking path leading up the mountain and followed it. At its end we assumed it would not be a bad idea to continue from here on in north west direction up the mountain. We now know it was a very bad idea. We ended up in a very uncomfortable and seriously dangerous climbing situation in which we really did not want to be. So our advice: stick to the route here!<br /> <br /> - The Ford-125 (S38°20.908 W71°09.294') looks impassable right now. You can avoid it by using an improvised bridge about 120m further west.<br /> <br /> - At roughly S38°17.091' W71°01.354' the path broke away into a very steep descent. It is passable, but also slippery and includes a certain risk of which you should be aware.<br /> <br /> - The daily bus out of Ranquil does not stop at the busstation because it is too large to reverse there. You have to walk down the street ca. 2km to where a bridge crosses the river. The bus reverses here and does not go up further up the road. Right now it stops there at 6 in the morning.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> Ranquil - no shop but there are families who sold us sopaipillas<br /> <br /> Lonquimay - Supermercado Espinoza next to the bus stop has most things. A little shop on the left hand shortly after the bus terminal when walking from the bus terminal towards the center has gas. The shop has different air mattresses, clothes and some outdoorsy things in the windows. There's also a ferretería that might have. Several accommodation options. <br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> *To Liucura<br /> Updated Jan 2022:<br /> <br /> Bus from Temuco to Liucura (goes all the way to Icalma) Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 7:30am (+ 15:55?), 5 hours of travel. Leaves Liucura at the bus terminal next to COPEC at 12.<br /> Also busses from Lonquimay to Liucura Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 15 and Tuesday+Thursday at 14<br /> <br /> Bus from Temuco to Lonquimay every day - Monday-Saturday 15:55, Sunday 17:30<br /> There may even be busses from Santiago to Lonquimay<br /> <br /> *Ranquil<br /> Updated 2022, Jan<br /> Bus from Ranquil to Lonquimay (on Mon, Wed and Fri at 7:30am from the village<br /> <br /> Bus from Lonquimay to Ranquil Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 15:00 - bus terminal next to COPEC<br /> Buses to Troyo leave every day and can drop you off at the crossing to Ranquil, about 30-40 km, but hitching might still be difficult from here<br /> <br /> *If skipping section 13-15:<br /> We went from Pucón to Temuco, but it seems to be the long way around. It might be worth it to ask around in Pucón whether there is a rural bus to Curacautin, and from there to Lonquimay, as that seems way faster on the map - alternatively it could be possible hitching this route.<br /> <br /> *Lonquimay<br /> Update 2022, Feb<br /> <br /> Bus from Santiago - Terminal Sur to Lonquimay leaving at 21:40 and arriving around 8:00<br /> <br /> Company : Jet Sur<br /> <br /> $26.000 for semi-cama<br /> <br /> Commentaries : really comfortable, nice and professional people, USB-plugs, I took it on Sunday night, it was the only one on Sunday, I don't know if there are some on the other days<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT12 - Río Rahue]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> [[File:GPT_6_Guallali_108664133.jpg|thumb|center|1100px|Araucarias on GPT12]]<br /> [[File:GPT_6_Guallali_108664142.jpg|thumb|center|1100px]]<br /> [[File:GPT_6_Guallali_108664125.jpg|thumb|center|1100px]]<br /> [[File:GPT_6_Guallali_108664136.jpg|thumb|center|1100px]]<br /> [[File:GPT_6_Guallali_108664138.jpg|thumb|center|1100px]]<br /> <br /> [[category:Greater Patagonian Trail]]</div> Jandudeck https://www.wikiexplora.com/index.php?title=GPT12_(Rio_Rahue)&diff=112607 GPT12 (Rio Rahue) 2023-12-02T19:13:23Z <p>Jandudeck: /* Season 2023/24 */</p> <hr /> <div>{{Table all GPTs}}<br /> <br /> &lt;br style=&quot;clear:both&quot; /&gt;<br /> <br /> Add a new log entry always on top in the appropriate season sub-chapter and use format: <br /> <br /> ''*'' Start Date to Finish Date (use Format YYYY-MMM-DD) / Duration in Days / Hiking or Packrafting / Travel Direction (SOBO for Southbound or NOBO Northbound) / Chosen Route and/or Option Name (RR for Regular Route) / Names or Alias<br /> <br /> Summary with remarks to route that are considered useful for other hikers and packrafters. Include alerts, suggestions and personal perception of attractiveness and difficulties.<br /> <br /> <br /> Add a sub-chapter by placing two &quot;=&quot; before and after the new sub-chapter heading ('==Sub-Chapter Heading==').<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> =Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions=<br /> <br /> ==Season 2025/26==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2024/25==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2023/24==<br /> <br /> * 2023-Nov-23 to 2023-Nov-27 / 4 days / hiking / NOBO / Ana &amp; William<br /> <br /> We just finished part of 12 and overall it is a lovely hike though we might potentially be a bit too early in the season depending on your risk threshold.<br /> <br /> Heading NOBO the small pass after laguna verde is fine. Little snow but not bad. Next pass is a bit tough, lots of snow walking and lots of risky parts where there are hidden rivers/water ways under the snow and where cliffs of snow had broken off but we managed by being careful and taking time to judge. RR-CC-A {12} [68.1/68.5+2.9] is not passable we went on the route to the left of it. Scary but fine, you have to make your own route since it’s completely snowed over. Downhill is fine, snow is only on the south face of the mountain. Next day we skipped the pass and did a plateau crossing based on advice from a local, it was lovely, the trail is east to follow most of the way then getting across the plateau you can take any possible direction, no wrong way and it connects to the 12-03c. Coming down on though there are two tracks at 12-03c marker. OH-TL-I {12-03A} [0.9+3.4] is not a route. At least not now. It’s basically a river gorge and it’s not possible unless you can surf down waterfalls, so we scaled up almost completely vertical to meet the CC route that runs parallel. Might be possible when there is less snow melt though. The CC route we took was almost a completely verticals decent for 800 meters and I must say a bit terrifying. Clambering down on your butt/downhill rock climbing is not the hard part but if you are not careful and you don’t judge your path every few meters you can find yourself looking down a minimum 30-200 meter drop, so it’s mentally scary not knowing if you will get to the bottom. But we did. I would not advise it, instead I’d advise continuing on 12-03 past the lakes back to the normal route. Took us almost 3 hours of being very careful though. We then got to the first river. Many locals we met before told us the only way to ranquil is the balsa, but we didn’t fully understand what they meant till we got to the river. They meant Bulsa Rahue which is on the way to lonquimay. The first main crossing at Ford {12} [45.4/1039] is very deep and very fast. For us as beginners a big no go, but I honestly think for advanced that would be tough as well if not only very dangerous. We then moved back to lonquimay where for the first part of the trail the river had flowed over so much that there was no trail but then eventually the trail gains significant elevation over the river and it’s fine. We asked others we ran into on the way and they confirmed that it’s too early to pass the rivers, but again depends on the hiker I’m sure.<br /> <br /> Comment Jan Dudeck December 2023: The best route way to ascent from the Plateau is the trail in the South-West of the Plateau. That's the trail on which the horses are probably moved up and down. Starting with the Track Files 2024 the normal route up and down the Plateau will be OH-TL-V {12-03} [0.0+14.4]. I have cleaned up the routes on the North-Western edge of the Plateau. These exploration routes are best taken up and not down. Starting with the Track Files 2024 these exploration options are {12-03A}, {12-03B} and {12-03C} and all classified as Exploration Routes.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2022/23==<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2023-Jan / Martin&amp;Helena<br /> <br /> On regular route (SOBO) after puesto at 62.9, there is another puesto after approx 1km. It’s situated right on the road, soon after start of CC and before Gpt12-G End and it’s guarded by 4 or 5 agressive dogs. It was impossible to go around, so we were continuing with our trekking poles in front of us but dogs started to attack us and in the end I was bitten by one of them. The owner was there too but basically did nothing and dogs were absolutely out of her control.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2023-Mar-01 to 2023-Mar-05 / 5 days / Hiking / NOBO / RR / Iris, Alexis <br /> <br /> Arrived in Liucura late in the 28th Feb afternoon by hitchhiking our way from Lonquimay. There is also a bus that leaves at 7:30 PM. We shared our plans with the carabineros and asked for a place to pitch and he sent us near the river, after the truck &quot;parking&quot; (-38.64806, -71.08856 - really nixe and private spot). There are 3 shops in Liucura with supplies and we even had a nice diner for 6k each at the Hospedaje. <br /> Started early the next day with 12-P until 12-R. This way we avoided to climb any fence. There are plenty of paths going upward so we ended up not following the one from the tracks but something that joined the top quite directly. Then we enjoyed our walk on the ridge. We continued for a while and camped at Laguna Escondida. The marked point is in the wood, a bit far away from the water but wind protected. We decided to go much closer to the water and met our two first GPT hikers going southbound on the trail! <br /> <br /> The next day we took 12-H to avoid the aggressive dogs and then sticked to the RR until Camp {12} [51.6/1293]. The descent in the forest (RR-CC-A {12} [52.3/52.8+2.2]) was a bit painful as it is steep and without path. Following the OSM route is not better.<br /> <br /> Day 3, we followed the RR until Laguna Marinanqui (Lake, Camp {12} [33.9/1281]) where we camped. Then we met Reyes, a local from Peluhue who was waiting a group of &quot;gringo&quot; since the previous day. We spent the night here with him, tasting our first cooked pinones. <br /> <br /> On day 4, we hiked to Camp {12} [20.4/1625] (Banos Coyucos). All the fords of Rio Pulul were easy. On the trail we crossed a group of horseriders (Reyes' gringo) that got lost in the mountains and were on their way to the lake. Then we had our first pinata moment : we found an araucania and hit a ball with a branch for a rain of pinones. At the bayos, we met two persons preparing an asado for the group of riders and an other group of people just staying for a bath. Both pools are great, the second one (the smallest and a bit more down) is a bit warmer. We got invited and fed by the riders (smoked cerdo, tortillas al rescaldo, goat asado...)! They eventually left and we were alone in the bayos for the night. <br /> <br /> On Day 5, we hiked until the junction with GPT11 but without taking options 1 or 2 following the advices of the previous hikers. Then we directly continued to GPT11.<br /> On a side note, on most of the section, you will walk on well marked trails that are easy to follow. It contains multiple extremely scenics moments, at least one highlight per day (several for the last one). Definitely worth it to hike! There are no more tabanos at this period of the year, but indeed many wasps ! <br /> <br /> <br /> *2023-Feb-12 to 2023-Feb-16 / 4.5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR / Natalie+Tomàš<br /> <br /> Combined 10+11+12 continued mid-day from 11.<br /> Started mid-day at Banos de Pelehue, Tomáš explored the banos, there was a pool that had some cold water flowing to it, which is diverted, so the temperature should be nicely warm. However, it resulted in smelly hands for two days despite soap. The first hot springs waypoint is wrong but the location is very scenic. We continued to Banos Coyucos for the night and luckily arrived just before a storm hit.<br /> The Banos Coyucos were not &quot;great&quot;. The first one with the A-frame roof is not that warm, more like stale bathwater, but the second further down with only a partial roof is much better. We spent the stormy night in the second one so more heat would have been nice but I am sure it's a good temperature for day time bathing.<br /> <br /> Day2<br /> Late start but great trail from the Banos to the marshy flats. I met Rosè from the puesto right at the beginning of the flats, she was very easy to get along with and had a good sense of humor. I would recommend looking for her if you were in need of help. She also helped show me how to avoid the marsh by sticking slightly high on the side of the hill, there was a little bit of a trail. The next plateau up was forgettable, accidentally walked along variant A for too long before dropping down to the RR. The RR is much faster than the side hill that hops from one puesto to the next on variant A. The rest of the way to Laguna Marinanque was enjoyable, definitely leave your sandals on at the bottom for the multiple river crossings. <br /> At this time of year Marinanque was still boggy but caused no problem's. However, I would be careful at the Northside not to get stuck in the bog, it looked very deep. We slept at the abandoned puesto 37.7 (No Water).<br /> <br /> Day3<br /> Fast and lovely trail to camp51.6. After then and up the steep grass hill it is CC. I wouldn't rely on the GPX here as it i basically just straight up. The last water source before the hill 52.2 makes a nice rest. Just to clarify once again, there is no water at the first plateau; camp54.5. However, the water at the small lakes on the main plateau did not look awful, just goose poo around.<br /> Up and over the main/last pass is straightforward but the other side is still boggy. The first camp was not good but if you walked up the bog directly on top of it there was a source of clean water. We slept at the second camp; 59.5, which felt the best of all three, there was water, a little muddy but the third camp looked dry. <br /> <br /> Day4. <br /> You can make a small short cut on a wide &quot;road-trail&quot; just before the RR turns off from the main trail towards puesto 61.8. Crossing the bottom valley here is still very boggy. The lady at puesto 62.9 was very welcoming, offering food/chocolate/coffee. She had some angry dogs but they behaved well once she called them. The next puesto up from her had the dogs that bit a past GPT hiker. They were indeed the aggressive type but the lady tied the worst one up in order to let us pass. If she hadn't we were going to skirt around on the right into the forest to hopefully avoid them and or you could descent back down the hill and go far left.<br /> Like Veronica said there is some water at -38.41178, -70.99125, not tasty but not filtering it had no consequences. At the intersection of RR and J I met some friendly carabinieros that were going into Argentina to fetch some Chilean horses, they were taking on a good trail. From the water source I just described and towards Maximiliano's puesto I did not enjoy the trail, didn't make much sense and felt I was zig zaging in the valley for no good reason. <br /> Day got better once meeting &quot;Maxi&quot; and his son. Jan, if you are reading this Maximiliano says hi and has only good things to say about you. I told him you were off in the mountains somewhere but hopefully will come back to visit again. He wanted to make sure people were good to us and luckily we told him we only had pleasant encounters. His neighbor down the road (Seguro?) was also extremely friendly. The rest of the way to Laguna Verde was fast, a mixture of old roads and easy trails and a CC bit. The first puesto at Laguna Verde was abandoned and we slept in the grass beside it. It was very windy and the water in the lake was very dirty but luckily we found a small dribble of flowing water near the puesto. In the morning everything was covered in frost and slightly frozen, our first freeze.<br /> <br /> Day5<br /> Our final day was easy, the ridge got a little tedious (but was surprisingly beautiful in parts) and I was very happy it wasn't a hot day because otherwise it would have been very dry and uncomfortable. We managed to avoid all barbed wire fences (even though they could be jumped because 3/4 of the fence is cow panels and just the top two lines are barbed). When you are walking down from the trail from the ridge instead of turning left and jumping over your first fence we just went straight down towards the main road (aim for this open gate -38.63510, -71.09298), it is on the first dirt road marked on OSM branching from the main road when going into Chile from the border after Liucura. There were a couple big dogs at the end but they were locked up. Only 1km of road walking back to Liucura, past a nice looking restaurant, and or you could just start hitching to Lonquimay if desired. <br /> We agree that you could technically resupply in Liucura, it was a very happening border stop with fruit and vegetables, sold out bread and then all the other basics- but no canister fuel obviously. <br /> The bus situation from here is confusing as the shop owners and locals all say different things. What I gathered was that there was a bus going to Lonquimay at ~7, ~12 and ~4pm but I don't think it runs every day. Hitching to Lonquimay looked easy but we hitched to Icalma (more difficult) even though supposedly there was a bus to Icalma at 730/8/830?pm. Once again I don't think the bus runs everyday or weekends, possibly only Mon- Wed- Friday.<br /> In Icalma that was the case, if going to Lonquimay or Melipeuco there was only a bus Mon,Wed &amp; Friday. Sadly I forget the exact times but I remember the first bus was very early, leaving ~6am and then a bus to lonquimay at 3pm. Icalma had lots of little minimarkets and cheap accomodation, slept in cabana for 20mil/night (10mil each)<br /> <br /> Notes:<br /> <br /> -If I was to do this trip again I wish I had more time to spend at the puestos.<br /> <br /> -The picoñes are falling, also wish I doubled up on fuel in order to cook them. We tried mashed picoñes in Icalma and they were delicious!<br /> <br /> -The wasps have replaced horseflies, never got sting but got bit. <br /> <br /> -Many of the trails this time of year were &quot;dirt-dust&quot; but on the bright side most bogs were avoidable. <br /> <br /> -No problems with water, only had to carry extra water on the last day after the final water stop at 87.6. <br /> <br /> -luckily only had a few bad days of smoke, mainly when we were close to Trapa Trapa. <br /> <br /> <br /> *2023-Jan-18 to 2023-Jan-21 / 4 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR starting from the termas de pelehue / Will <br /> <br /> I merged onto section 12 at the termas de pelehue, where I was immediately greeted by a group of 20ish condors taking off from a patch of grass in the valley. My pace got even slower, watching them fly low around me.<br /> <br /> I went on to camp at the Banos Coyucos, easily my favorite hot springs so far. Perfect temperature, clean, but still felt natural. There were two groups of Chilean hikers there, all super friendly and generous.<br /> <br /> The next day of walking through the valleys was beautiful and pretty fast. A bit before the big climb I had my first unpleasant encounter, with a group heading down the road by ATV. The leader stopped and asked if I had authorization to hike there, I said that I didn't know that I needed it. He seemed to think that was obviously a lie. He became somewhat friendly once I explained my plans and after discovering that I was foreign. He gave me some direction advice then set off. In hindsight I figure he must have been a landowner. I did see quite a few littered beer cans afterwords, maybe he was trying to prevent that.<br /> <br /> The steep climb was tough, and I ended up camping pretty late up top. In terms of water I only saw a few muddy puddles though I didn't look very hard. There were a few ponds the next morning just over the hill. <br /> <br /> The rest of the section was easier than I expected, and not so interesting to me. I should have carried more water on the final 20km. If you want to skip the barbed wire fences you'd have to take variant R at the end of the ridge walk. I thought I could skip them with variant S but most of them were before the turnoff so I ended up following the regular route the whole way. Thankfully they were solid and pretty easy to climb.<br /> <br /> No luck hitching out of Liucura so I spent the night. There were no buses on Sunday but someone at my hostel gave me a ride to Lonquimay the next day. If you're continuing on then Liucura could work for a basic resupply, but I'm planning on relaxing a bit then skipping ahead. See busesbiobio.cl for the bus schedule out of Lonquimay.<br /> <br /> I'm still one day behind the same set of footprints I've been following all the way since section 7. I guess I'll never catch up.<br /> <br /> <br /> *2023-Jan-15 to 2023-Jan-18 / 4 days / Hiking / SOBO / Termas de Pelehue (junction GPT 11, option 1 and GPT 12) - Liucura / Anna &amp; Christopher <br /> <br /> We connected section 11 and 12 and started at Termas de Pelehue around km 9.<br /> The first day the path was easy to find most of the time and the views were great. The canyon to Laguna Marinanqui is very beautiful. We camped after the last rivercrossing before the Laguna.<br /> <br /> To path around the Laguna involved some bushbashing and muddy ground.<br /> Until the CC ascent the path was good. The ascent itself is pretty tiring. We could not find water at the point indicated by Véronica so we continued until the first small Laguna on the plateau. That was a great spot to camp and the Laguna has clear water.<br /> <br /> The following part is not hard to navigate and continues with spectacular views.<br /> Ascending the next hill at appr. km 67 we followed a good animal path on towards the west of the hill (instead of the CC part of the RR), next to an accesible creek.<br /> Easy trails the rest of the day. We camped at the water waypoint [78.4/1775] between Laguna Escondida and Laguna verde.<br /> <br /> The next part is great and easy until towards the end of the ridge after the last ascent, where the path finding gets harder with some bush bashing parts. On the last kilometers we descended until the main road to avoid climbing barbed wire fences.<br /> The shopowner of the resupply in Liucura offered us to camp in his garden.<br /> The next morning we hitchhiked to Lonquimay. The buses from Lonquimay to Temuco leave at 8 am and 12:30 pm, not sure if there is also a later bus.<br /> <br /> <br /> *2022-Dec-25 to 2022-Dec-30 / 5.5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR (combined with GPT11 via GPT11-02) / Véronica <br /> <br /> Route: Junction at km 12.9 where GPT11-02 meets with GPT12 - Baños Coyucos - Laguna Marinanqui - Pehuenche Extortioner valley - Laguna Escondida - Liucura <br /> <br /> Absolutely beautiful section. Really loved the cross-country bits on high plateaus and ridges, amazing views. I did not have any navigation issues. I met no one 4 days in a row. <br /> <br /> I connected GPT11 Option 2 with GPT12, so I missed the Pelehue hot springs. I did find a good creek at the &quot;water&quot; waypoint at 15.9 km, not dry like what Veronika and Jo found last year. I really enjoyed the camp at Baños Coyucos in an araucaria forest, and the hot springs there were great too! Perfect temperature, and not as dirty as I thought they might be. <br /> <br /> Lots of boggy cow pastures along RR-TL-V {12} [25.6+07], had trouble finding any sort of trail there. Enjoyed the trail along Río Pulul in the canyon with all the fords. All the river crossings were easy, and I found many lovely potential camp spots on that stretch. <br /> <br /> Just north of Laguna Marinanqui (where you have the option to take 12-C), there is a large marsh to contour like others have mentioned. I managed to cross without getting all muddy by closely following the regular route. <br /> The trail kind of disappears after the junction with 12-E, but following the GPS it's not too hard to reach the base of the big CC climb to the high plateau. This climb is steep, but not dangerous - you climb on grass and dirt (no scree). There was no water at the &quot;Water ?&quot; waypoint, but I found a hidden spring nearby at S 38° 21.247', W 071° 04.140'. There are also shallow lagunas up on the plateau you could get water from. After the passes coming downhill into the Pehuenche Extortioner valley, the three campsites in a row there were quite waterlogged from snowmelt. The trail was a river in a couple places there too. Lots of squishy walking, wouldn't be ideal to camp there right now. <br /> <br /> The next CC stretch after the Extortioner valley is awesome on a rounded ridgetop. There is a nice meadow and good water source shortly before reaching the next pass. From this pass all the way to Maximiliano's puesto is a good horse trail, not cross-country. <br /> <br /> After the &quot;water&quot; waypoint at 87.6 km, after Laguna Verde, there is no more water until Liucura, so I filled up in order to dry camp on the ridge further along. All the subsequent CC stretches until Liucura have paths running along most of them, makes walking easier :) The final ridge walk starting at km 95.3 is fantastic, and there's lots of sheltered areas up there too where you could camp if you have enough water. <br /> <br /> I followed the regular route all the way to Liucura (ended up climbing over 4 different barbed wire fences once I was off the ridge). Hitched into Lonquimay and will be skipping down to Section 16.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2021/22==<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2022-Feb-14 to 2022-Feb-15 + 2022-Mar-07 to 2022-Mar-10 / Hiking / SOBO / RR / Veronika &amp; Jo <br /> <br /> The first day we continued from GPT11, starting at Termas de Pelehue (where you can camp, though you have to search around for non-sulfury water pushing up through the meadows). We continued along the border with Argentina. Great all-around views, decent trail instead of CC most of the time, no water at S 38° 09.380', W 071° 01.300' &lt;- in agreement with Molly and Melissa.<br /> <br /> We escaped to Ranquil in the south to resupply, and got back three weeks later, taking the afternoon bus from Lonquimay (mon-wed-fri, bus early the morning and in the afternoon). Slept in the refugio in the valley east of Ranquil. The road between Ranquil and this eastern valley is almost fully MR instead of TL.<br /> <br /> Continued RR until the Pehuenche Extortioner valley, but took optionals 12-H and 12-5 to arrive at Pehuenco in time to take the bus Friday morning at 08:00 (also mon-wed-fri) to make sure we made it to our plane in Puerto Montt on Sunday. We skipped Laguna Escondida and Laguna Verde with pain in our hearts :(<br /> <br /> We saw the camp site at 12-H and asked around in the roundabout way (&quot;do you know a camp site?&quot;) standing next to it, but no positive answer came. We camped at the pass before Maximiliano's puesto instead, where there is a little water turning into the usual cow meadow. Met Maximiliano there :)<br /> <br /> <br /> *2022-Feb-21 / 5 days / Hiking / NOBO / RR + OH 02 / Romain <br /> <br /> Regular Hiking Path :<br /> - There are a lot of Araucaria trees. I managed to save 2 days of food just by harvesting piñones on the floor following the path. I would recommend to not rely on it because it depends on the period, but there was plenty.<br /> <br /> - the path after Laguna Marinanqui wasn't easy to follow because it was like a swamp but once I manage to cross this humid part it was all good<br /> <br /> - Camp on Ford {12} [32.6/1299] (Rio Pulul), great place with lot of space, grass, dry wood, almost no wind when I camped there, I really appreciated this place <br /> <br /> - I did the multiple fords without removing my water shoes because there are close and it worth it<br /> <br /> - Camp {12} [17.0/1794] : I had to stay one day there due to raining conditions. Looking at the places after, it's to my mind the last place to camp before starting going uphill, it would be too windy and too cold to camp farther. During the rainy day the temperature dropped to less than 10° I think, I had to stay in my duvet. And during the night I got ice on my tent, it wasn't extreme but it was good to be well equipped. <br /> <br /> - Option 11-02 and 11-02B to reach back the regular route was the best part I did of my entire trek, with a condor flying 10-15m above me, spectacular landscapes, ... I really recommend it but only in stable good conditions because it was really really windy, and going northbound otherwise 11-02B would be very demanding because of the sand.<br /> <br /> - the hot spring {11-02B} [1.2/2113] and more generally the place with vapors and boiling water at some places and many condors flying around you is very impressive<br /> <br /> - Nobo : Demanding clampering, in good weather only : everything is in the title and the other commentaries well describe it. I hadn't felt really in danger following the track but I was much tense and aware of everything. It's definitely not a good idea to be there not in good conditions. And you need to have time to do it in one time, there is no place adapted to camp until the pass {11} [27.6/2174] and event just after it's still much wind, and at some point the earth/sand soil make you hike very slowly. I thank the people who wants through before me, their tracks were much helpful to see the way and to not slip in the sand. Except these points the place is beautiful and I appreciated it a lot in the continuity of the part before.<br /> <br /> <br /> Option 12-02 :<br /> <br /> - 11-05G : the road from Lonquimay start with concrete and become gravel at a certain point, but lot of people use it and without hitchhiking many proposed me to take me<br /> <br /> - transition 11-05G to 12-02 : the road leading to the ferry is really smaller than the main one, I missed it because I wasn't enough attentive to that<br /> <br /> - Ferry : the indicated opening time are : 8:30-17:30 from Monday to Friday, 8:00-10:00/16:00-18:00 on saturday ; I arrived there at 13:30 on the Monday and there was nobody to move it, fishermen told me to wait for a car but they seem to say there should be one until 1 or 2 hours so I crossed the river going up, water reached my hips and I arrived in a farmer property, people were very friendly, but should I do it again I would cross going down (easier to reach + no problem with entering a property)<br /> <br /> - 12-02 continues by crossing the river on a beautiful wood hanging bridge (12-02A continues straight), I appreciated this path with plenty of rabbits, aracauria trees and beautiful landscapes. I slept close to the river in a flat field with apple and peach trees. It seemed people are used to camp there with lot of campfire marks, really windy the day I camp there<br /> <br /> <br /> *2022-Jan-10 / 6 days / Hiking / NOBO / Molly og Melissa<br /> <br /> Amazing section with great views. Definitely don't skip the two high parts unless the weather is bad. We didn't find it to be dangerously steep except for a few metres on the descent before Laguna Marinanqui, which were uncomfortable.<br /> Tábanos were better than expected, it was pretty windy. We also brought a fly swatter. It was very effective for killing those who sticked around during breaks, and gave a lot of satisfaction<br /> <br /> We took the alternative route to the east right out of Liucura due to the notes of other people. Shortly after, we saw a path climbing the mountain, and took that. Big mistake - the path disappeared quickly and left us to climb steeply through dense bamboo. We learned the lesson of staying close to the route, and this payed off. Often, when the route is marked as CC, a path exists that follows the route closely.<br /> On one of the CC sections we met a man with his animals, who wanted to know what we were doing. He said that we needed a permission from someone in Liucura to be there, and that many people came by and disturbed the animals. When we apologized and said we didn't know and that we'd go on to Laguna Verde he didn't pursue the subject and seemed friendly enough.<br /> We ended up camping on the beach by Laguna Escondida.<br /> On the descent from there to the Pehuenche Extortioner valley we passed a puesto not marked on the GPS. It seemed empty, and the gravel road was right next to it. There were some very aggressive dogs that we gave a shock, though, they quickly surrounded us. The owner got them calmed down a bit, but one of them to still took a bite of my sleeping mat on the bottom of my bag while we were calmly talking to the owner. <br /> After the Pehuenche Extortioner valley you climb a pretty tall mountain pass to an amazing high plain. The descent from here is, as others have written, very steep, not too difficult but definitely better down than up. From there you have a very nice easy trail with good views almost all the way to Laguna Marinanqui, but at the river crossing and every time there is a puesto of trail the trail diverges, and you often have to follow the less obvious trail, so it pays off to look at the GPS often.<br /> After Laguna Marinanqui we just kept our wading shoes on for the six river crossings, it worked very well. None of the crossings were difficult in any way.<br /> We camped at the Coyuco hot springs. It's a nice enough camp site with a little bench and table under the Aucaria trees, but not too many big sites for the tent. The hot springs are a little bellow, covered by some planks. They are pretty dirty but a perfect temperature, no views either.<br /> <br /> The last big ascent nearing the Argentine border was amazing and should definitely not be skipped unless the weather is bad! There is a small CC section, but most of the way through the pass there is a nice trail - stick to the route and you will find it! It lasts all the way to the gravel road to Ranquil. There is a boarder post, and a pretty flat grassy area where it would be possible to camp on the Argentinian side of the border, next to a stream. In general, plenty of water all the way to the second hot springs. From there, nothing until you reach the river in the bottom. The hot springs are in an amazing area, and would be a beautiful campsite with great views, bit requires clear and calm water. We didn't see the hot springs ourselves, but we met some Chilean tourists who liked them. <br /> <br /> Water:<br /> Generally, water is plentiful, but with some comments. We started from Liucura on midday on a very hot day, and having read about plentiful water we brought a liter each. However, there was nothing until the first waypoint, which we couldn't reach, so we ended up going down to the river in the eastern valley and camping there.<br /> Furthermore, on the ascent from the Pehuenche Extortioner valley where there are three campsites on a row, the first didn't have water and the second only very little.<br /> On the high plain where it's marked water? there was water, but very still and dirty. Would only drink it if very desperate. Shortly after joining the path after the descent there are very nice streams.<br /> We arrived in Ranquil in the afternoon on a Sunday, and hitched to Lonquimay - very challenging though, with three rides and some walking in between<br /> <br /> <br /> *2021-Nov-23 / Hiking / NOBO / RR / Marc Anthony<br /> <br /> After i finished GPT 3 i headed down south to GPT 12 in order to hike the next couple of groups in a northbound direction since it’s more suitable to hike from down here this time of year compared to the more northern sections<br /> <br /> It was love at first sight! I was so thrilled to escape the exposed terrain of the north and come down here to this beautiful part of the country, where you can enjoy the nice shade from the Arucania trees. Got the bus from Lonquimay to Liucura at 14:00 and started my trip on the optional route east of the RR to avoid previously mentioned barbed wire fence.<br /> Later I climbed up to the mountain ridge and followed the RR.<br /> <br /> After my first night I was woken up by the sound of a bunch of cows running around my tent, and a stuck my head out to find a Pehuenche man on a horse wearing a balaclava, looking at me. Was very surprised at first but he was a nice guy who was just curious about me. We took some photos of each other and I got to ride around on his horse.<br /> I general I found water to be plenty, the weather good and the trail in good condition. There are although some very steep sections every now and then where you have to be careful. I was also hit by a hail storm during a mountain pass but luckily it quickly passed.<br /> <br /> At laguna Marinanqui towards the end of the section I met a group of Chileans from Victoria who were out on a weekend fishing trip. We drank a few beers together while catching some salmon in the Laguna and after i joined on the walk back to Ranquil. We took GPT option 1 to skip the nothern hump. And on arrival at Ranquil they gave me a ride back to Lonquimay. Great fun!<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2020/21==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2019/20==<br /> <br /> *Feb 2020-Feb / Hiking / NOBO / Lauric<br /> <br /> Took optional #002 east of regular trail to avoid climbing over barbed wire. It is an easy road. Then we climbed up on the ridge with optional #003. Not exactly on the track but we found a trail going up. On the ridge it's amazing with 360 views. Easy walking too. Optional down in the valley would be easier but less rewarding. Continued our way to the pass 1920m (after taking mate at Maximiliano's puesto). At the pass we left the regular trail to end up on a descending road. Easy descent to optional 12-04-#001 and easy walk in the valley. From there we avoided the extortioner and up to the second pass (2120m). The views are amazing. Very steep and CC descent. Wouldn't have liked to go up this part. From the pass to laguna Marinanqui is pretty boring but easy part. Laguna is very beautiful and a great place to camp. North of laguna is ankle deep in cowshit. We got up by the river to the termas. There are 2 pools. Then we headed town to Ranquil to finish the section. Carabineros let us camp on their field. Bus to Lonquimay Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 6AM and 5PM in front of the police station.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2020-Jan-24 / 3.5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR mostly / Frank <br /> <br /> At the high lakes I continued on RR-CC-I@12-57.1+7.5, a spectacular traverse but at the end there is a very steep &amp; slow descent on rock, scree &amp; sand. I would consider this descent to be dangerous &amp; best avoided by taking the Pehuenche Extortioner variant. After Maximilian's Puesto I took OH-MR-V@12-03-#001out to the road then into Liucura. At least 2 places to stay there, they both have a restaurant. Also a cafe &amp; 3 shops, you can resupply easily.<br /> <br /> <br /> *2020-Jan-23 / Hiking / SOBO / RR Ending at ranquil carabineros / Ty &amp; America <br /> <br /> Just hiked to The hot spring from the top of section 11. Not much to report. Hot springs were luke warm. There’s some sort of makeshift hut covering them. Nice camp there though. We got a hitch when nearing the carabineros to Lonquimay. Wouldn’t usually count on this though. Definitely middle of nowhere. Apparently the bus comes at 5.<br /> <br /> <br /> *2020-Jan-17 / 3.5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR + OH 03 / Martina &amp; Ivo <br /> <br /> Start: Termas de Pelehue, End: Primary road towards Lonquimay<br /> Amazing section. The Termas de Pelehue are gone due to the lack of maintenance. The second hot springs the same, but the fumaroles above are quite impressive! The third hot springs down in the valley are great, there are several pools just below the camp. After the second pass (2'180) we decided not to do the investigation route as it looked pretty uncomfortable to us. The descent after the third pass (1'920) to Maximiliano's puesto was a nice trail, not at all CC. There our longing for a beer was so huge that we took the optional route 12-03-#001 through the beautiful araucaria valley. Believe it or not, shortly before arriving at the primary road there came a bus, taking us to the junction, from where a connecting bus to Lonquimay was leaving, everything within 10 minutes :-) Excellent resupply and accommodation in Lonquimay, funny town.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 15-Jan-2020 / 3.5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR / Maddie &amp; Tom <br /> <br /> Spectacular section, some of the best scenery we have seen so far! Some of the ascents and descents are quite steep and technical. There is lots of loose rock and no easy track to follow. It was quite windy and all the high passes are dangerous in poor weather. The trail is also overgrown and difficult to follow in some sections. This makes it slower than you might expect, however it is perfectly doable. Good resupply in Licura at the end of the section, as well as nice places to stay (around 20000 pesos for a double). <br /> <br /> <br /> * 9-Jan-2020 / 5 days (GPT11 + GPT12) / Hiking / SOBO / RR + OH 2 Matus &amp; Anna<br /> <br /> We combined sections 11 and 12. It took us 5 days including one zero because of weather. Patagonia showed us bit of it's potential in these two sections. <br /> All walked trails were in good condition and CC sections pretty easy to navigate. In the sadle of section 11, because of strong wind, poor visibility and fresh snow and ice we were forced to take optional to the valley. There is a big snowfield, I don't recomend sliding on it all the way. It the lower parts there were big holes into the stream. <br /> From Ranquil we took optional #002 because we didn't want to climb back up. Uphill is more a minor road, downhill nice trail. <br /> After a laguna we took a optional to the Pass 2180 and road around the Pehuenche Extortioner. We needed to get down from elevation ASAP bacause of wind. We passed puesto early in the morning and no one was around. After rainy day everything above 2000m was white. We took trail to pass 1920m which was just with bit of fresh snow and then took minor road #001 down to valley. So I have no idea about the rest of the trail.<br /> Edit: adding a picture from the last sadle 1920m, we did after &quot;rainy&quot; day.<br /> <br /> <br /> * 2019-Dec-06 / 10 days / Hiking / NOBO / RR from Liucura without the northern slope, so we went directly to Ranquil from S38°12.723' W71°05.208'/ Sophie &amp; Hendrik <br /> <br /> In total we were 11days on the trail, of which we spend 1.5 in the tent due to bad weather. The route is free except for one fort, but there is a workaround. Also we had a couple of navigation problems, which cost us several hours. See recent alerts and suggestions.<br /> <br /> We liked: The quickly chang landscape and its huge variety, beautiful cinematic views, funny animals, that water was always available, bathing in the rivers, beautifully blooming plants.<br /> <br /> We did not like so much: The problems we encountered due to navigation mistakes, the hailstorm on the mountain ridge, beercans that people drop on the paths.<br /> <br /> We bluntly hated: The amount of horse flies. In the northern part we were not able to make one step without having at least five buzzing arround our faces. This army of blood suckers was sent by a source of pure evil to annoy hikers.<br /> <br /> The following is a chronological accumulation of all our observations made in the last 11 days. Note for navigation difficulties that we walked northbound.<br /> <br /> - The most southern CC part direclty north of Liucura is now bordered by fences. You have to follow the path and then go left through a gate. The gate on the western fence is some 80m further south than you would expect. It was locked and we had to carefully (barbed wire) climb over it. It might be a lot easier to take the optional route in the east to get up the ridge.<br /> <br /> -We were unable to find and follow the path at S38°24.881' W71°00.281' down to the valley. We endet up on a path a little further south. However, this path starts to lead further and further south, so that at some point we startet to ge back to the original path through the woods, which did cost several hours.<br /> <br /> - Getting up the mountain at S38°24.450 W71°01.871' we startet ca 300m further north than indicated by the CC route due to fences and rivercrossing opportunities in the valley. (We thought CC means come up with your own route anyway.) At ca 1720m of altitude, still 300m north of the indicated route we found a good looking path leading up the mountain and followed it. At its end we assumed it would not be a bad idea to continue from here on in north west direction up the mountain. We now know it was a very bad idea. We ended up in a very uncomfortable and seriously dangerous climbing situation in which we really did not want to be. So our advice: stick to the route here!<br /> <br /> - The Ford-125 (S38°20.908 W71°09.294') looks impassable right now. You can avoid it by using an improvised bridge about 120m further west.<br /> <br /> - At roughly S38°17.091' W71°01.354' the path broke away into a very steep descent. It is passable, but also slippery and includes a certain risk of which you should be aware.<br /> <br /> - The daily bus out of Ranquil does not stop at the busstation because it is too large to reverse there. You have to walk down the street ca. 2km to where a bridge crosses the river. The bus reverses here and does not go up further up the road. Right now it stops there at 6 in the morning.<br /> <br /> ==Season 2017/18==<br /> <br /> ==Season 2016/17==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Resupply and Accommodation=<br /> <br /> Ranquil - no shop but there are families who sold us sopaipillas<br /> <br /> Lonquimay - Supermercado Espinoza next to the bus stop has most things. A little shop on the left hand shortly after the bus terminal when walking from the bus terminal towards the center has gas. The shop has different air mattresses, clothes and some outdoorsy things in the windows. There's also a ferretería that might have. Several accommodation options. <br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns==<br /> <br /> ==Resupply and Accommodation along the Route==<br /> <br /> <br /> =Transport to and from Route=<br /> <br /> *To Liucura<br /> Updated Jan 2022:<br /> <br /> Bus from Temuco to Liucura (goes all the way to Icalma) Monday, Wednesday, Friday at 7:30am (+ 15:55?), 5 hours of travel. Leaves Liucura at the bus terminal next to COPEC at 12.<br /> Also busses from Lonquimay to Liucura Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 15 and Tuesday+Thursday at 14<br /> <br /> Bus from Temuco to Lonquimay every day - Monday-Saturday 15:55, Sunday 17:30<br /> There may even be busses from Santiago to Lonquimay<br /> <br /> *Ranquil<br /> Updated 2022, Jan<br /> Bus from Ranquil to Lonquimay (on Mon, Wed and Fri at 7:30am from the village<br /> <br /> Bus from Lonquimay to Ranquil Monday, Wednesday and Friday at 15:00 - bus terminal next to COPEC<br /> Buses to Troyo leave every day and can drop you off at the crossing to Ranquil, about 30-40 km, but hitching might still be difficult from here<br /> <br /> *If skipping section 13-15:<br /> We went from Pucón to Temuco, but it seems to be the long way around. It might be worth it to ask around in Pucón whether there is a rural bus to Curacautin, and from there to Lonquimay, as that seems way faster on the map - alternatively it could be possible hitching this route.<br /> <br /> *Lonquimay<br /> Update 2022, Feb<br /> <br /> Bus from Santiago - Terminal Sur to Lonquimay leaving at 21:40 and arriving around 8:00<br /> <br /> Company : Jet Sur<br /> <br /> $26.000 for semi-cama<br /> <br /> Commentaries : really comfortable, nice and professional people, USB-plugs, I took it on Sunday night, it was the only one on Sunday, I don't know if there are some on the other days<br /> <br /> <br /> =Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues=<br /> <br /> <br /> =Links to other Resources=<br /> <br /> Retired Section Article [[GPT12 - Río Rahue]]<br /> <br /> =Images=<br /> [[File:GPT_6_Guallali_108664133.jpg|thumb|center|1100px|Araucarias on GPT12]]<br /> [[File:GPT_6_Guallali_108664142.jpg|thumb|center|1100px]]<br /> [[File:GPT_6_Guallali_108664125.jpg|thumb|center|1100px]]<br /> [[File:GPT_6_Guallali_108664136.jpg|thumb|center|1100px]]<br /> [[File:GPT_6_Guallali_108664138.jpg|thumb|center|1100px]]<br /> <br /> [[category:Greater Patagonian Trail]]</div> Jandudeck