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2025-02-10T16:28:58Z

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2024-11-28T18:05:19Z

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2024-11-28T18:04:38Z

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Felagund en 18:04 28 nov 2024

2024-11-28T18:04:18Z

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	==Season 2024/25==		==Season 2024/25==
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		+	*'''2025-JAN-05 to 2025-JAN-07 / 2 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR+OH (var. A, E, H, I, K, M, N, O) / Ivan, Jakub, Daniel, Martina'''
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		+	A simple and short section through Los Alerces National Park. Since we found the park expensive and not particularly interesting, we decided to pass through it as quickly as possible, mostly following PR.
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		+	Los Alerces National Park is home to the second-oldest trees on the planet, which is why every foreign visitor must pay an entrance fee of around 20,000 ARS at the park gate (at approximately km [10.7]) for the first day, and 10,000 ARS for each additional day. Additionally, overnight stays are only allowed in paid campsites. Since we found it excessive to pay such fees just for walking on a gravel road, we looked for an alternative solution. After nearly an hour, the office staff called a park ranger, who, after we promised to sleep in a campsite, allowed us to pass through without paying what we considered an unreasonable amount. For this reason, we chose to follow PR as quickly as possible to exit the park as soon as we could. Apart from a few exceptions, we found the detours to the trail unnecessary.
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		+	BIVOUACING:
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		+	Camping is only allowed in designated paid campsites. The campsites marked as "Free" in TF are mostly closed with a camping ban.
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		+	WATER:
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		+	Since this section follows lakes for most of the way, water is abundant.
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		+	RESUPPLY:
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		+	Every campsite we passed had a small shop with basic food supplies, fast food, and WiFi, so carrying several days' worth of food is unnecessary.

	* '''2025-02-05/ 1 day / Hiking / SOBO/ Option 1 / Tomáš&Natalie&Thijmen'''		* '''2025-02-05/ 1 day / Hiking / SOBO/ Option 1 / Tomáš&Natalie&Thijmen'''

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 ==Season 2024/25==
-* ''2025-02-05/ 1 day / Hiking / SOBO/ Option 1 / Tomáš&Natalie&Thijmen'''
+* '''2025-02-05/ 1 day / Hiking / SOBO/ Option 1 / Tomáš&Natalie&Thijmen'''
 See our log for 25P for reasons why we hiked this. The ranger actually told us the trail is closed, as it has not been cleared yet, despite the workers telling us they just finished the clearing. Additionally, one cannot register online for this trail and must do it in person on the other side, presumably because the trail with its 600m-over-2-km elevation at one stretch qualifies as life threatening or something (the crazy libertarian president's influence clearly does not reach as far as here). We were told to paddle back despite heavy wind being predicted to start before noon. We were exceptionally allowed to camp here: -42.88670, -71.72896, where there is an infrastructure for a camp (no toilets, of course), but the camp is closed it seems. On the other side, signs indicated you are supposed to do this hike over three days, camping both nights at the beach at camp 17.0 and visiting Lago Krugger as a daytrip. We were unsure how to proceed, but in the end gambled that nobody would catch us, so we started walking at 7:30. The trail is actually Huella Andina and is quite pretty with views and flowers. For hikers, arranging the ferry to Lago Krugger and walking it is something to consider, though with the in-person permission system, this feels hard (maybe hitch and flipflop?). It was freshly cleared all the way. When we reached camp 17.0, we saw some people. I put on a drysuit and a floatation vest and walked to them with the intention of pretending we had paddled in case they were park rangers. They turned out to be hikers who camped there and told us the trail is actually open to that point, which relaxed us. Going up from bridge 17.8, there is no water until water 21.3. At -42.86285, -71.63006, OSM and GPT are wrong. Just follow the road or Strava. You do not come by park rangers. The last two km, you can follow the trail that mostly goes under the ugly MR, only joining it briefly twice. In Villa Futalaufquen, it was very windy. We opted to forgo a bus (at 19:00?) to Trevelin that cost 8000 ARG, which we found outrageous. At -42.89369, -71.61742, there are free functioning toilets open 24/7, with soap and toilet paper. A miracle. Probably caused by a church here: -42.89183, -71.61886 that is open all the time and only has service every first and third Saturday in the month. It was almost dark and we decided to sleep in the church, taking care never to use lights and we got away with that. Excellent protection from wind. On the way to Trevelin, see our log for GPT26.

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	==Season 2024/25==		==Season 2024/25==
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		+	* ''2025-02-05/ 1 day / Hiking / SOBO/ Option 1 / Tomáš&Natalie&Thijmen'''
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		+	See our log for 25P for reasons why we hiked this. The ranger actually told us the trail is closed, as it has not been cleared yet, despite the workers telling us they just finished the clearing. Additionally, one cannot register online for this trail and must do it in person on the other side, presumably because the trail with its 600m-over-2-km elevation at one stretch qualifies as life threatening or something (the crazy libertarian president's influence clearly does not reach as far as here). We were told to paddle back despite heavy wind being predicted to start before noon. We were exceptionally allowed to camp here: -42.88670, -71.72896, where there is an infrastructure for a camp (no toilets, of course), but the camp is closed it seems. On the other side, signs indicated you are supposed to do this hike over three days, camping both nights at the beach at camp 17.0 and visiting Lago Krugger as a daytrip. We were unsure how to proceed, but in the end gambled that nobody would catch us, so we started walking at 7:30. The trail is actually Huella Andina and is quite pretty with views and flowers. For hikers, arranging the ferry to Lago Krugger and walking it is something to consider, though with the in-person permission system, this feels hard (maybe hitch and flipflop?). It was freshly cleared all the way. When we reached camp 17.0, we saw some people. I put on a drysuit and a floatation vest and walked to them with the intention of pretending we had paddled in case they were park rangers. They turned out to be hikers who camped there and told us the trail is actually open to that point, which relaxed us. Going up from bridge 17.8, there is no water until water 21.3. At -42.86285, -71.63006, OSM and GPT are wrong. Just follow the road or Strava. You do not come by park rangers. The last two km, you can follow the trail that mostly goes under the ugly MR, only joining it briefly twice. In Villa Futalaufquen, it was very windy. We opted to forgo a bus (at 19:00?) to Trevelin that cost 8000 ARG, which we found outrageous. At -42.89369, -71.61742, there are free functioning toilets open 24/7, with soap and toilet paper. A miracle. Probably caused by a church here: -42.89183, -71.61886 that is open all the time and only has service every first and third Saturday in the month. It was almost dark and we decided to sleep in the church, taking care never to use lights and we got away with that. Excellent protection from wind. On the way to Trevelin, see our log for GPT26.

	* ''' 2025-JAN-27 > 29 / 2 jours / Randonnée / SOBO / RR > 24-F > RR / Pierre-Marie '''		* ''' 2025-JAN-27 > 29 / 2 jours / Randonnée / SOBO / RR > 24-F > RR / Pierre-Marie '''

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	==Season 2024/25==		==Season 2024/25==
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		+	* ''' 2025-JAN-27 > 29 / 2 jours / Randonnée / SOBO / RR > 24-F > RR / Pierre-Marie '''
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		+	Etape : GPT24+GPT25+GPT26
		+	\| Meteo : soleil
		+	\| Eau : facile
		+	\| Neige : non
		+	\| Intérêt : 3/5
		+	\| Difficulté : 1/5
		+	\| Danger : gravel road
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		+	Après avoir dejeuné dans un restaurant à Villa Lago Rivadavia, je commence le sentier. Il est bien sauf le km avant le mirador (le point culminant: 871m (max)) qui est plutôt en mauvais état. Pas d'eau sur ces 10 premiers km sauf au début et à la fin. J'ai campé au point 42.626712° S 71.653935° W. Le propriétaire est passé et je lui ai demandé s'il était d'accord pour que je campe. Avec mes affaires qui sèchent, ma machette et mon equipement il a bien vu que je n'étais pas un touriste classique. Je lui ai précisé que je ne faisais pas de feu et que je mangeais froid. Il y a un sentier balisé quasiment ininterrompu en très bon état jusqu'a Punta Mattos (km 46). Je ne comprend pas pourquoi la gravel road est un itinéraire optionnel, seuls les sentiers sont répertoriés normalement. Le mirador de la 24-F est vraiment top. Il y a quelques clôtures à franchir. J'ai fait de l'auto-stop du km 46 au km 52 car la gravel road est très fréquentée. Au km 54,5, continuer sur la plage, inutile d'aller dans les ronces, la trace n'est pas bonne. Pour eviter la petite falaise au km 57 il faut aller sur la route. Pour redescendre il faut prendre le sentier au point 42.837067° S 71.604431° W. Au km 61 je suis remonté de la plage car des arbres barrent le passage. La dame du camping m'a dit que c'était comme ça les 3 prochains km alors je suis resté sur la route goudronnée jusqu'a Villa Futalaufquen.

	==Season 2023/24==		==Season 2023/24==

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 ==Season 2022/23==
-*2019-11-10 / Jan Dudeck
+*'''2019-11-10 / Jan Dudeck'''
 The regular hiking route is according to reports from past years mostly unmaintained. This means hikers must deviate on long stretches to the main road making this section less attractive for hikers. Also the trail from Lago Kruger to Villa Futalaufquen might be unmaintained. Therefore, ask before taking the ferry!
 The packrafting route GPT24P is unaffected by this issue and remains a highlight if the GPT because its 99% on water.

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 ==Season 2023/24==
-* 2024-20-23 to 2024-02-26 / 3 days / Hiking / SOBO /RR / Gerald
+* '''2024-20-23 to 2024-02-26 / 3 days / Hiking / SOBO /RR / Gerald'''
 If you want you can go around the park entrance: go to the beach at Camping Puerto Cañero and follow the OSM trial.
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 All in all maybe worth it if you haven't seen Alerces. There are some nice spots on this section, but in general not too exciting. In the end walking on the stoney beach is quite tiring.
-* From 2024-02-14 to 2024-02-15 // 2 day // Hiking // NOBO // VARIANT O, N, M, L, J, A + RR // Quentin Clavel
+* '''From 2024-02-14 to 2024-02-15 // 2 day // Hiking // NOBO // VARIANT O, N, M, L, J, A + RR // Quentin Clavel'''
 I came from GPT 25, and I followed the RR, it allows you to avoid the entrance, so I haven't paid, and had no check from guardaparque inside the NP.
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 This section is generally straightforward and easy, especially as much of it is now on roads. There a few trail segments that are overgrown in places, but these are officially closed and probably in a process of improvement.
-* 2023-Mar-04 to 2023-Mar-07 / 3.5 days / hiking / SOBO / RR + optional on roads / Martin & Helena
+* '''2023-Mar-04 to 2023-Mar-07 / 3.5 days / hiking / SOBO / RR + optional on roads / Martin & Helena'''
 Easy walking around the lakes, on now well maintained trails / roads. At the PN entrance (SOBO) we had to pay 3500 ARS, cash only. Not sure if it can be avoided by entering early in the morning or late, we were not asked for the ticket later. Definitely don’t miss the Laguna Verde Mirador and place with pasarela on its southern side, on the other hand we didn’t find trail to Laguna Escondida that interesting. Nice restaurant in Aura camp, where you can pay with cc.
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 Contact: @martin_hanzelka @helenneka
-* 2023 January / Hiking / GPT24 Southbound / Mostly Regular Route / Martin Lizondo
+* '''2023 January / Hiking / GPT24 Southbound / Mostly Regular Route / Martin Lizondo '''
 Sections 23, 24, 25 southbound (RR Hiking)
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 Happy hiking.
-* 2022-Nov-13 to 2022-Nov-15 / 2.5 days / hiking / SOBO / RR & Optional route on roads / Frank
+* '''2022-Nov-13 to 2022-Nov-15 / 2.5 days / hiking / SOBO / RR & Optional route on roads / Frank'''
 The 3 northern sections of the Huella Andina beside Lago Rivadavia were officially closed when I went through. However they may now be officially open.  I walked the 2nd & 3rd sections SOBO, the 2nd was OK & 3rd was passable but a bit rough. Going south from Camping Rivadavia all sections of the Huella Andina on GPT24 were officially open & in good condition.
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 ==Season 2019/20==
-* 2020-Jan-13 to 2020-Jan-14 / 2 days / hiking / SOBO / RR / Shaun
+* '''2020-Jan-13 to 2020-Jan-14 / 2 days / hiking / SOBO / RR / Shaun'''
 This section was a bit better than I expected. Although they were officially closed due to being overgrown, I walked the first 15km of the regular route / Huella Andina and it was fine. In fact, I met two Alceres Park rangers with chain saws putting the finishing touches to a 4km part that was due to reopen the next day. There are many new-ish Huella Andina blue and white trail markers throughout. There were a few other parts of the trail that were closed that I didn’t walk on, but they also may have been passable or about to reopen. And there were a number of other parts that were open and were fine. So it was possible to avoid walking on the road for much of the first 47km. However, the boat service from Punta Mattos to Lago Krugger still does not operate and so I had to walk on the road for the final 20-25km.
 According to park rangers, the trail to Villa Futalaufquen from Lago Krugger is open for its entire length, not just from Playa Blanca. Of course, without the Punta Mattos ferry it’s not possible for hikers to cross and start at Lago Krugger, but the trail is a packrafting option. There is a daily boat service from Puerto Limonao (3km north of Villa Futalaufquen) to Lago Krugger that leaves at noon and returns at 7pm. It’s possible to recharge devices at the VF ranger station.
 =Resupply and Accommodation=