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Ant.bocquier en 00:38 10 ene 2026

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2026-01-07T22:16:36Z

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2025-12-20T21:53:52Z

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2025-03-19T15:59:52Z

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Daniela.montecinos en 15:59 19 mar 2025

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2025-02-21T02:49:13Z

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-*2025-12-31 to 2026-01-02 /2,5 Days / Packrafting / SOBO / RP / Anh
+*2025-12-31 to 2026-01-02 / 2,5 Days / Packrafting / SOBO / RP / Anh
 Water level normal to high, as some sandbanks were not visible. I had a headwind of approx. 15-20 km/h.
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 - 1st rapid no problem
 - 2nd rapid I didn't register. It was probably not a problem

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 *2025-12-31 to 2026-01-02 /2,5 Days / Packrafting / SOBO / RP / Anh
 Water level normal to high, as some sandbanks were not visible. I had a headwind of approx. 15-20 km/h.
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 After Bridge, Camp {28P} [67.8/16] (Canal Garrao), there is no possibility to camp until the fjord. I camped here at -43.799596, -72.927780, which I had checked very carefully (low tide, high tide, water marks from the previous day). However, I
 would not officially recommend Jan, because at high tide the water reaches just short of the tent.
 In the fjord, there was a tailwind (from the east) early in the morning (8:00).
 * <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''2025-12-18 to 2025-12-19 / 1.5 days / Packrafting / SOBO / RP / Daniel.s'''</span>

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 As a side trip, Antoine packrafted in the fjord Pitipalena up to Rodrigo's house. Rodrigo is a lovely man, he offered me a tea and I really enjoyed talking with him. He showed me pics he took of the wild animals of the park. I wish I had more time there.
 About 2-3h with rising tide and relaxed pace, barely no wind (southern wind and waves appeared in the last 3km). Did not follow the coast in the bay but went along 2 islands in a straight line (with a lunch break on one). Came back the same wave, quite some headwind (I narrowly followed the shore for shelter), which reduced after 2-3km, and the falling tide made it rather easily and enjoyable. Down to the Pacific Ocean and the lovely popular beach, insane sunset over the fjords.
 * <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''2025-12-18 to 2025-12-19 / 1.5 days / Packrafting / SOBO / RP / Daniel.s'''</span>

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	Of course, we acknowledge this was done with exceptional conditions, 2 boats and a taste for spicy memories :)		Of course, we acknowledge this was done with exceptional conditions, 2 boats and a taste for spicy memories :)

		+	As a side trip, Antoine packrafted in the fjord Pitipalena up to Rodrigo's house. Rodrigo is a lovely man, he offered me a tea and I really enjoyed talking with him. He showed me pics he took of the wild animals of the park. I wish I had more time there.
		+	About 2-3h with rising tide and relaxed pace, barely no wind (southern wind and waves appeared in the last 3km). Did not follow the coast in the bay but went along 2 islands in a straight line (with a lunch break on one). Came back the same wave, quite some headwind (I narrowly followed the shore for shelter), which reduced after 2-3km, and the falling tide made it rather easily and enjoyable. Down to the Pacific Ocean and the lovely popular beach, insane sunset over the fjords.

	* <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''2025-12-18 to 2025-12-19 / 1.5 days / Packrafting / SOBO / RP / Daniel.s'''</span>		* <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''2025-12-18 to 2025-12-19 / 1.5 days / Packrafting / SOBO / RP / Daniel.s'''</span>

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	==Season 2025/26==		==Season 2025/26==
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		+	* <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''2026-01-02 to 2026-01-04 / 3 Days / Packrafting / SOBO / RP / Michel, Lisa & Antoine'''</span>
		+
		+	Day 1
		+
		+	We started from La Junta in the late afternoon (16:30) and paddled only a few kilometers to Camp (28P} [5.5/30], which is really nice with tons of flat, grassy spots and space for half an army if you needed it. Shade, wind protection, beautiful views, cow poop - this place has it all.
		+
		+	Day 2 & 3
		+
		+	We got started at 9:30 and floated down the river, only occasionally paddling since there was generally good flow (3-5 km/h) and no wind. It was so hot we went for swims in our drysuits from the boat and Antoine had a go at trying to standup paddle on his packraft. We thought about the names of our packraft and thought that tabaño might be a good one, then there at least would be one tábano that we'd like.
		+	Floating down the river at 5 km/h, not lifting a finger we realized how lucky we were. No wind, no clouds, 30°C, fishing from the packraft, mate in hand, birds chirping in the background and en route to hot springs. What more could one wish for?!! (Maybe catching a fish, still unsuccessful so far)
		+	We did the 33 km to the hot springs in 5 h 40 min with barely any paddling which is quite astounding when reading other entries here I guess.
		+	The hot springs are amazing and we were completely alone there on a Saturday afternoon. There are two small pools, the upper one was 41 °C and the lower one must have been cooler (we didn't try/measure). The small stream that flows into a pool next to the hot pools was 17 °C cold, so a perfect match for the hot water.
		+	While we were all sitting in the nice hot water, Antoine suddenly brought up the crazy idea to paddle on to Raúl Marín Balmaceda in the full moon light. The forecast predicted 5 m/s southeastern winds at night with no clouds and the moonrise was at 22:30, so it all sort of added up.
		+	After apero and dinner on the island just downstream of the hot springs, still enjoying 30deg at 7pm and the view on Melimoyu, we started again at 22:00. The conditions were ideal with no wind except for a ~1.5 km stretch at 2:00 and the full moon to light up the river and surrounding landscape after midnight. All in all it took us 8 h of paddling to reach Raul Marín Balmaceda, arriving at 7:00 at the beach, where we collapsed onto the sand and slept in the sun.
		+
		+	--longer version for Day 2 & 3, describing the night
		+
		+	Got excited about the full Moon, high temperatures and no to 5km SE wind conditions and decided to flow the last 40km overnight, attempting sunrise (6am) when entering fjordo Pitipalena. High tide expected around 3.30am with a high coefficient (7m amplitude), as expected by full Moon (Sun-Earth-Moon alignment increases tidal effects). We aimed to reach canal Gerrao around then, to minimize counter currents on the Palena, counter currents on the canal during falling tide and enjoying the falling currents in the fjord to reach Puerto Raúl Marin Balmaceda.
		+	We started at 10:30pm, very chill and excited for the first 2hr, with a great river flow, rather dark as the Moon was not yet above the mountains. Chose the calmest lines, staying safe from sunken trees and enjoying the stars. Moonrise over the mountain at 0:30 was majestic, at the same time we started observing the rising tide in the 270° section.
		+	After km56 (past the water waypoint), the current increased with many waves (probably increased by the rising tide on the flowing water), making this ~2km stretch quite exhausting. This ceased after the turn and moderate tailwinds (incredible, right?) pushed us down to the channel on this long stretch. As it took us longer than expected, we pressed on to make it for the right tide timing. We attached Antoine's solo packraft to the double one for 6km to get faster. Exhausted but mate-powered, we entered the canal at 5am. It was already flowing out fast to the Palena but further on, when expending, this becomes less noticeable (Venturi effect). And it actually flows to the fjord in the last section, evacuating water both ways. It took about an hour to cross the channel, surprisingly nicer that expected with birds singing in the dawn, jumping fish and the fjord appearing in dim light. The fjord was beautiful, exciting to see tidal currents, feeling some sea smells, crossing the shallow bay before the water ran out in a matter of minutes. The Moon set in the west as the sun rose and gradually enlighten parts of the fjord. Another 45mn with favourable currents and we reach the beach of Puerto RMB at 7:15 where we instantly crashed on the beach after 70km/14h for a well deserved nap, waking up later to see dolphins, a penguin and a seal swimming in front of us.
		+	Though but rewarding traverse, with a variety of atmospheres, lights and moods.
		+	Of course, we acknowledge this was done with exceptional conditions, 2 boats and a taste for spicy memories :)

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	==Season 2025/26==		==Season 2025/26==
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		+
		+	* <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''2025-12-18 to 2025-12-19 / 1.5 days / Packrafting / SOBO / RP / Daniel.s'''</span>
		+
		+	Day 1:
		+
		+	Started in La Junta early, a day with little wind. Flow speed of the river ~6kph. No news in regards to Rapids or obstacles. Water level was normal. Entry to termas is still possible, one treefall on the trail, but manageable to pass on the right.
		+	Camped at the last river bend (mind tidal level) S 43° 52.370', W 072° 52.148'.
		+
		+	Day 2:
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		+	Went out with the tide going low (river speed ~2.5kph), didn't go through the canal, but followed the main river out to sea (very calm morning, no wind, small waves) and went back into the fjord to the pier with the tide rising. Recommend doing so only in calm conditions.

	==Season 2024/25==		==Season 2024/25==

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 We started quite late on the 24th from the bridge of Rosselot river in La Junta, because we had an issue with the TZIP of one of the packrafts, so that day we only paddled for a couple of hours and camped near Fundo El Sauce (44°00’18.72’’S, 72°32’58.82’’W). We avoided Rapid {28P}[8.1/33] by taking the right flank at the previous fork. You just need to be careful with a large rock on the right just before the junction, as the current pushes you in that direction.
 On the second day, we took it easy and started paddling around 12 hrs. Our plan was only to reach the hot springs so we could enjoy them in peace. Unfortunately, it was a very rainy and windy day, which made us go very slowly, so we only managed to reach the hot springs around 4:30 PM. We camped right in front (44°00’25.9’’S, 72°36’33.54’’W) after enjoying the thermal waters.
 On the third day, we had to start early because our progress had been very slow. We tried to coordinate our paddling with the tide to have a favorable current, but it didn’t seem to work well. It was a physically tough day; we advanced very slowly, and there were sections where the current was not in our favor—at times, if we stopped paddling, we would even drift backward. That day, we camped near the bridge of the Garrao Channel.
 On the fourth day, we woke up late to paddle the Canal Garrap at high tide, as we'd been told it was the best way to do so, and it actually worked to reach the Pitipalena Fjord. When we arrived at RMB, some beautiful dolphins greeted us; it was beautiful.

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	==Season 2024/25==		==Season 2024/25==
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		+	* <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''2025-02-24 to 2025-02-27 / 4 days / Packrafting / SOBO/ RP / Daniela&Gabriela'''</span>
		+
		+	We started quite late on the 24th from the bridge of Rosselot river in La Junta, because we had an issue with the TZIP of one of the packrafts, so that day we only paddled for a couple of hours and camped near Fundo El Sauce (44°00’18.72’’S, 72°32’58.82’’W). We avoided Rapid {28P}[8.1/33] by taking the right flank at the previous fork. You just need to be careful with a large rock on the right just before the junction, as the current pushes you in that direction.
		+	On the second day, we took it easy and started paddling around 12 hrs. Our plan was only to reach the hot springs so we could enjoy them in peace. Unfortunately, it was a very rainy and windy day, which made us go very slowly, so we only managed to reach the hot springs around 4:30 PM. We camped right in front (44°00’25.9’’S, 72°36’33.54’’W) after enjoying the thermal waters.
		+	On the third day, we had to start early because our progress had been very slow. We tried to coordinate our paddling with the tide to have a favorable current, but it didn’t seem to work well. It was a physically tough day; we advanced very slowly, and there were sections where the current was not in our favor—at times, if we stopped paddling, we would even drift backward. That day, we camped near the bridge of the Garrao Channel.
		+	On the fourth day, we woke up late to paddle the Canal Garrap at high tide, as we'd been told it was the best way to do so, and it actually worked to reach the Pitipalena Fjord. When we arrived at RMB, some beautiful dolphins greeted us; it was beautiful.

	* <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''2025-02-14 to 2025-02-15 / 2 days / Packrafting/ SOBO/ RP, variant G / Tomáš&Natalie'''</span>		* <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''2025-02-14 to 2025-02-15 / 2 days / Packrafting/ SOBO/ RP, variant G / Tomáš&Natalie'''</span>

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 I was coming from Alto Rio Palena (GPT27P) but right after La Junta, the headwind increased and it was impossible to continue. It was even pushing me against the stream! I had to get urgently out of the river and even reaching the shore was quite a task! Well, that's how Patagonia is... We have to respect the weather conditions.
-* <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''GPT28P/ Santo Domingo - Puyuhaupi / Packrafting / 2024 Jan-08 / 8 days / Jordan Jennings'''</span>
+* <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''Santo Domingo - Puyuhaupi: Options 3, 5, 6, 7, GPT30P/ Packrafting / 2024 Jan-08 / 8 days / Jordan Jennings'''</span>
 OK! I would like to acknowledge here that as with any section, our perspective having completed a section is always coloured by the weather and conditions we experienced.

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 ==Season 2024/25==
-* <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''2025-02-14 to 2025-02-15 / 2 days / Packrafting/ SOBO/ RP, variant G / Tomáš &Natalie'''</span>
+* <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''2025-02-14 to 2025-02-15 / 2 days / Packrafting/ SOBO/ RP, variant G / Tomáš&Natalie'''</span>
 From La Junta camp, it took us about 5,5 hours to reach the hot spring (Variant G) despite facing significant wind for the last 90min (20-30 km per hour?). The river is nicely flowing despite having several slower sections. Rapid 24.1 caused us trouble. In the middle of the two rapids I wanted to check the map for the hot springs, so we exited to the giant eddy on the right. When we tried to re-enter, Nat wanted to make a plan, but I did not give it enough time, so we ended up edging wrongly, hitting whirlpools that filled our Beluga (we named our raft!) and almost capsizing not that far from some large strainers. I was not expecting the whirlpools and eddy lines to be that strong. Natalie did not want to risk falling in front of the strainers again, so she chose to walk (more like crawl) through driftwood to the lower part of the rapid. With more care, I had no issues entering the current the second time though. The hotspring belongs to somebody, you are not supposed to loiter, make fires or camp. It has a good temperature and is clean, visit it! It does not seem to be used often, judging from footprints, so you would probably get away with camping. The two changing rooms might be big enough for one person in each to sleep diagonally, or perhaps (!) pitch a tent next to them. During the day, there were no mosquitoes there. We left around 6PM and at that time the wind had subsided. We paddled the next 10 km to here: -43.90048, -72.82275 in 100 minutes. Jen Ni notes that the tide begins to cause an effect around the large 270°turn, so we wanted to get close to there since our low tide the next day was at 10:30am (Puerto Montt). At camp we were not "swarmed" by mosquitoes like Davide, but there were many, and they were unusually vicious. We started with first light shortly before 7am the next day. It took us 80 minutes to paddle 7,7 km to the water waypoint. The next 7.5 to camp at 61.7 took 70 minutes and the last 6 km to Canal Garrao took another hour, so we arrived at the canal by 10:30am. Therefore, without headwind and with tide in your favour, you can get to the Canal in five hours from the hot spring. In the canal, which took 90 minutes, there was no significant wind or tide. We had to walk the boat for a few hundred meters on the beach, as we kept to the left, but boats passing by on the right indicated that the right was deeper. I chose to follow the RP for the last bit, which crosses the fjord to the north even though Nat was favoring staying along the longer southern coast. When you face a rising tide, my idea to stay on the RP is probably not such a good idea. Both wind and tidal currents seem to be concentrated between mainland and the island at -43.79032, -72.93086, producing a strong push against you. It employed all our strength to overpaddle it, and because all exits are covered in barnacles, there was no place to rest. It took us 80 minutes to paddle there and back to the southern shore (~3km); -43.78535, -72.94612, where the wind and current were significantly less and we saw the cute dolphines. So moral of the story, if one is fighting the tide/wind we recommend staying along the southern shore or going left of the small island.
-In Puerto RMB, Hostal el Viajero is still 15 thousand per person. There are rooms for either two or three people, no dorms and a large garden for cleaning your boat. We had the whole second floor to ourselves, giving us one of the best ever price to quality over the whole GPT. Entel in town was slow (3G+) but functional. The shop selling the ferry tickets (Supermercado Isla del Palena) does not have Starlink, the restaurant/hospedaje next door does (Hostería Isla del Palena). I bought the last three nectarines in town. The next day, the ferry arrived ten minutes late at 9am and took one hour to discharge its cargo to townspeople, though we were told sometimes it comes and leaves in 10 minutes. It passes a penguin colony on these island: -43.77428, -72.95423 and -44.48459, -72.72564, which were close enough to observe. There were also many swimming around the ship as we left RMB. The stop in Melimoyu was long (1 hour?), perhaps ask if you have enough time to go walk around the carless village. The ferry arrived at 20:30, about one hour (?) late. From Puerto Cisness, a bus leaves for Coyhaique right after (well, more like half an hour) the ferry arrives. You can buy tickets in the office on board of the ferry. We had to pay the full fare of 10 thousand CLP to go to Villa Manihuales, which took 2 hours. There was a short weather window and we thought it would be easier to get to start of 29P from there.
+In Puerto RMB, Hostal el Viajero is still 15 thousand per person. There are rooms for either two or three people, no dorms and a large garden for cleaning your boat. We had the whole second floor to ourselves, giving us one of the best ever price to quality over the whole GPT. Entel in town was slow (3G+) but functional. The shop selling the ferry tickets (Supermercado Isla del Palena) does not have Starlink, the restaurant/hospedaje next door does (Hostería Isla del Palena). I bought the last three nectarines in town. The next day, the ferry arrived ten minutes late at 9am and took one hour to discharge its cargo to townspeople, though we were told sometimes it comes and leaves in 10 minutes. It passes a penguin colony on these island: -43.77428, -72.95423 and -44.48459, -72.72564, which were close enough to observe. There were also many swimming around the ship as we left RMB. The stop in Melimoyu was long (1 hour?), perhaps ask if you have enough time to go walk around the carless village. The ferry arrived at 20:30, about one hour (?) late. From Puerto Cisness, a bus leaves for Coyhaique right after (well, more like half an hour) the ferry arrives. You can buy tickets in the office on board of the ferry. We had to pay the full fare of 10 thousand CLP to go to Villa Manihuales, which took 2 hours. There was a short weather window and we thought it would be easier to get to start of 29P from there. Having arrived at 11PM, we went to the river here: -45.16933, -72.14155, where there is a hidden spot you can camp; there was one other Chilian tourist tent and nobody disturbed us until 9am, when we packed and left.  Town good for resupply, good fruit shop here: -45.17253, -72.14693.
 * <span style="background-color:aqua;">'''2025-Jan-18 to 2025-Jan-19 / 2 days / Packrafting / SOBO / RP + Variant G + RP / Davide Materia'''</span>