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2023-12-28T23:39:30Z

‎Season 2023/24

Quentinclavel: /* Resupply and Accommodation */

2023-12-22T09:32:21Z

‎Resupply and Accommodation

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2023-12-22T09:31:21Z

‎Season 2023/24

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2023-12-22T09:29:13Z

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 Small stream: -49.4040636, -72.7553371
 Small stream: -49.4112803, -72.7401567
 Small stream: -49.5036340, -72.5822583
 Stagnant pool: -49.5081890, -72.5713409
 Stagnant water: -49.5560720, -72.4225271
 Tap with potable water (restaurant): -49.8090569, -72.0532054
 River: -50.1568505, -71.9900064
 River: -50.2698608, -71.8851865
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 Dry riverbed: -50.0023450, -72.1077764
 Dry riverbed: -50.3111712, -72.0635096

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 -Water management
 -Long, monotonous stretches on asphalt
 -Strong western wind

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	==Season 2024/25==		==Season 2024/25==
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		+	*'''2025-MAR-26 to 2025-MAR-30 / 5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR+OH (var. A, Rutas RN40 + RP11) / Ivan, Jakub, Daniel'''
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		+	For this section, we mostly opted for a boring walk along the main road. Still, the vast Argentine pampa had its own unique charm.
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		+	We set out from El Chaltén before noon, following RP23. On the second day, we chose Route A, but walking along the beach proved challenging due to the soft terrain, so we frequently shifted closer or farther from the shores of Lago Viedma. We recommend to keep farther from the beach. At point X {41} [108.0/256] near La Leona, we continued along RN40 and later switched to RP11 at the junction (-50.30970, -71.85501), following it all the way to El Calafate. Strong headwinds were a major challenge here.
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		+	*Challenges:
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		+	-Water management
		+	-Long, monotonous stretches on asphalt
		+	-Strong western wind
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		+	*Bivouacing:
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		+	Finding a good wind-sheltered spot can be tricky. These are the places we camped:
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		+	1. Old quarry – provided decent wind protection (-49.5197272, -72.5477242)
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		+	2. Lakeside embankment – protected from the wind, close to the lake for water (-49.6568358, -72.0516014)
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		+	3. Near Río La Leona – mild winds, easy water access (-49.9726949, -72.0823503)
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		+	4. Flat spot near water – slight wind, but took time to find a shard-free area (-50.2696277, -71.8864846)
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		+	5. Hostel Aguilar House – includes breakfast, 12,000 ARS (-50.3333094, -72.2610229)
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		+	*Water:
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		+	Water is scarce in the dry pampa, so planning ahead is essential.
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		+	Available water:
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		+	Small stream: -49.4040636, -72.7553371
		+	Small stream: -49.4112803, -72.7401567
		+	Small stream: -49.5036340, -72.5822583
		+	Stagnant pool: -49.5081890, -72.5713409
		+	Stagnant water: -49.5560720, -72.4225271
		+	Tap with potable water (restaurant): -49.8090569, -72.0532054
		+	River: -50.1568505, -71.9900064
		+	River: -50.2698608, -71.8851865
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		+	No water available:
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		+	Dry riverbed: -50.0023450, -72.1077764
		+	Dry riverbed: -50.3111712, -72.0635096
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		+	*Resupply:
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		+	El Chaltén - As far as we know, there’s no resupply option near the border control at the beginning of the section. However, on the other side of the lake (km 11.6), there’s a restaurant.
		+	At the end of the section, in the tourist trap of El Chaltén, everything is incredibly expensive, and the selection is fairly limited, but you can resupply well enough. We combined resupplies from the supermarkets Lo de Lourdes (-49.3254052, -72.8916425) and Supermercado Chaltén (-49.3307613, -72.8857952), which seemed to us the best-stocked.
		+	We also briefly visited Supermercado Pachamama on the main square (-49.33318, -72.88383), which we found to be the worst option.
		+	Most outdoor shops in El Chaltén sell gas canisters.
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		+	La Leona – Overpriced tourist restaurant with friendly staff. Offers empanadas, pizza, some fruit, WiFi, and potable water.
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		+	El Calafate – We resupplied in the La Anónima supermarket (-50.3375244, -72.2616506). Plenty of restaurants, fast food, and a few outdoor stores available.

	==Season 2023/24==		==Season 2023/24==

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 ==Season 2023/24==
-From 2023-12-15 to 2023-12-21 //6,5 days // Hiking // NOBO // Quentin Clavel
+* '''From 2023-12-15 to 2023-12-21 //6,5 days // Hiking // NOBO // Quentin Clavel'''
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 Not exactly the track who's in the GPT guide, because, as I mentionned in the previous section, the National Parc didn't allowed you to pass threw between estancia Cristina and estencia Helsingfors if you're not a group of, at least, 3 people.
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 The arrival to Chaltén is long but exciting as the mountains and the amazing Fitz Roy reveals itself at every step.
+* '''November 2023 / Regular Route / mostly SOBO / 3 days / Frank'''
 * November 2023 / Regular Route / mostly SOBO / 3 days / Frank
 Although you are on tar there are no facilities for 108KM.  The route is featureless pampa & you will often go 20KM or more before finding a boulder or calafate bush to shelter from the relentless wind. Only recommended for hikers who are fanatical about connecting footsteps.
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 The above strategy is a bit risky with a daypack as if you do not get a lift you are snookered.  However I was lucky with lifts and never had to wait more than an hour.  Vehicles will not stop much near Chalten and Calafate but on the open pampa they often do stop.  There is quite a bit of traffic between Calafate and Chalten and also from Rio Gallegos.
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 It will probably be too windy & exposed to camp by the lake.  Going along the lake SOBO on dirt tracks about 6KM before you reach the road is Punta del Lago Estancia, you may be able to camp there behind trees or buildings.  There are no trees & no shelter on the pampa.  Trees only grow at the estancias.
 After 108KM (or 102KM if you take the jeep tracks) you reach La Leona.  Camping for $10 US or 9000 pesos (nov. 2023 price)
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 kilometers before La Leona if you go NOBO, or after if you go SOBO, you can find the ex restaurant "Luz la divina", an abandonned pink house, which is an inspiring obligatory passage, even a museum for our fellow cyclists friends, with a lot of signatures on the walls since 2013. (49°53′26.45″S 72°02′37.1″W).
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	11 kilometers before if you go NOBO, or after if you go SOBO, you can find the ex restaurant "Luz la divina", an abandonned pink house, which is an inspiring obligatory passage, even a museum for our fellow cyclists friends, with a lot of signatures on the walls since 2013. (49°53′26.45″S 72°02′37.1″W).		11 kilometers before if you go NOBO, or after if you go SOBO, you can find the ex restaurant "Luz la divina", an abandonned pink house, which is an inspiring obligatory passage, even a museum for our fellow cyclists friends, with a lot of signatures on the walls since 2013. (49°53′26.45″S 72°02′37.1″W).

−	~~You can find on La Ruta 40, approximatively at middle distance from El K to El Cha, "El Parador~~
	The arrival to Chaltén is long but exciting as the mountains and the amazing Fitz Roy reveals itself at every step.		The arrival to Chaltén is long but exciting as the mountains and the amazing Fitz Roy reveals itself at every step.

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	Expensive accomodation (about $100) but rooms were closed in November. They said rooms open in high season (beginning in December)		Expensive accomodation (about $100) but rooms were closed in November. They said rooms open in high season (beginning in December)
	Restaurant open for hot food 8AM=4PM & for snacks, pizza & beer until 8PM. Pick the most sheltered spot in the campsite, it gets very windy & can knock tents which are not well sheltered.		Restaurant open for hot food 8AM=4PM & for snacks, pizza & beer until 8PM. Pick the most sheltered spot in the campsite, it gets very windy & can knock tents which are not well sheltered.
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		+	11 kilometers before La Leona if you go NOBO, or after if you go SOBO, you can find the ex restaurant "Luz la divina", an abandonned pink house, which is an inspiring obligatory passage, even a museum for our fellow cyclists friends, with a lot of signatures on the walls since 2013. (49°53′26.45″S 72°02′37.1″W).
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	That was pretty desolating to see the very low level of rivers and lakes. But even at this level, it was good to find them to try to stay hydrated (even if the water was mixed with tierra, and so brown and crispy aha)		That was pretty desolating to see the very low level of rivers and lakes. But even at this level, it was good to find them to try to stay hydrated (even if the water was mixed with tierra, and so brown and crispy aha)
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		+	hotel de campo la Leona". You can camp and resupply (sandwiches, salads, fruits, snacks, cakes, drinks, coffee). It's just on the road, before passing threw the bridge on Rio La Leona.
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		+	11 kilometers before if you go NOBO, or after if you go SOBO, you can find the ex restaurant "Luz la divina", an abandonned pink house, which is an inspiring obligatory passage, even a museum for our fellow cyclists friends, with a lot of signatures on the walls since 2013. (49°53′26.45″S 72°02′37.1″W).

	You can find on La Ruta 40, approximatively at middle distance from El K to El Cha, "El Parador		You can find on La Ruta 40, approximatively at middle distance from El K to El Cha, "El Parador

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	==Season 2023/24==		==Season 2023/24==
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		+	From 2023-12-15 to 2023-12-21 //6,5 days // Hiking // NOBO // Quentin Clavel
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		+	Not exactly the track who's in the GPT guide, because, as I mentionned in the previous section, the National Parc didn't allowed you to pass threw between estancia Cristina and estencia Helsingfors if you're not a group of, at least, 3 people.
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		+	So I just walked from El Calafate to El Chaltén. It took me 6,5 days, and that was, as you can imagine not the most exciting section of the GPT !
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		+	I begun by following the GPT43 Option 3 (Lago Argentino Costa Sur), then I mostly followed the road to El Chaltén.
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		+	I was alternating between the side of the road and the pampa few hundred meters from it. I discovered some surprisingly great landscapes, following wild animals tracks (especially along Rio La Leona), but I somehow came back regularly on the road as the pampa is pretty sandy (especially along the Lago Viedma), and not so easy to walk on.
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		+	Pampa is definitely not funny, wind was crazy, and sun very intense. I had to be creative to find shadow and the pipes from dry rivers were pretty good for lunch breaks !
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		+	That was pretty desolating to see the very low level of rivers and lakes. But even at this level, it was good to find them to try to stay hydrated (even if the water was mixed with tierra, and so brown and crispy aha)
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		+	You can find on La Ruta 40, approximatively at middle distance from El K to El Cha, "El Parador
		+	The arrival to Chaltén is long but exciting as the mountains and the amazing Fitz Roy reveals itself at every step.
		+

	* November 2023 / Regular Route / mostly SOBO / 3 days / Frank		* November 2023 / Regular Route / mostly SOBO / 3 days / Frank