GPT46 (Seno Ultima Esperanza) - Historial de revisiones

Ivanderzanden: /* Season 2025/26 */

2026-03-17T14:46:55Z

‎Season 2025/26

Ivanderzanden: /* Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions */Log Isabelle and sander

2026-03-16T22:08:40Z

‎Section Log, Alerts and Suggestions: Log Isabelle and sander

Bennetnim: /* Season 2024/25 */Our hike

2025-04-11T11:25:21Z

‎Season 2024/25: Our hike

Pierre-Marie: /* Season 2024/25 */

2025-03-26T15:50:41Z

‎Season 2024/25

MiaimZelt: /* Season 2024/25 */

2025-03-15T14:19:33Z

‎Season 2024/25

MiaimZelt en 14:15 15 mar 2025

2025-03-15T14:15:01Z

MiaimZelt: /* Season 2024/25 */

2025-03-15T14:14:38Z

‎Season 2024/25

Jan.dudeck: /* Season 2024/25 */

2025-03-15T12:33:32Z

‎Season 2024/25

Felagund: /* Season 2024/25 */

2025-01-23T02:03:12Z

‎Season 2024/25

Robin Marcille: /* Season 2024/25 */

2024-12-19T23:47:17Z

‎Season 2024/25

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 The Navimag ferry from Puerto Natales to Puerto Montt got delayed three days so we took advantage and made a little two-nights loop to the Paso Abelardo from Rio Serrano. Was a bit cold but little wind. Amazing views of the Torres del Paine! The last Ultra Fiord was organised in 2024 but the blue sticks covered most of our route, at the same time feels a bit weird on the empty trails but also very convenient.
-Day 1 - taxi (20k) to Milodon cave (12k foreigners). After visiting we were lucky that the bus just passed from P. Natales to Rio Serrano (around 12h20) and we hopped on. 1,5k CLP pp, but priority for locals. Started hiking RH SOBO from Rio Serrano around 12 km to the Ultra Fiord camp at the intersection of RH and option A and B (-51.32343, -72.99942). Well sheltered between trees and a beautiful stream.
+Day 1 - taxi (20k) to Milodon cave (12k foreigners). After visiting we were lucky that the bus just passed from P. Natales to Rio Serrano (around 12h20) and we hopped on. 1,5k CLP pp, but priority for locals. Started hiking RH SOBO from Rio Serrano around 12 km to the Ultra Fiord camp at the intersection of RH and option A and B (-51.32343, -72.99942). Well sheltered between trees and a beautiful stream. Towards the end, just before we approached the lake, there was private property sign that looked very new (-51.30491, -72.99563), but we didn’t see anybody.
-Day 2 - left much luggage at the camp and we did a circle of around 14 km to the Paso Abelardo anti-clockwise (option A -> option B). Cool views. Back at the camp we took our luggage, walked down to the camp suggested by Nimrod and Tamar (-51.25507, -72.98694). Nice camp close to Rio Serrano, the stream was just tiny.
+Day 2 - left much of our luggage at the camp and we did a circle of around 14 km to the Paso Abelardo anti-clockwise (option A -> option B). Cool views. Back at the camp we took our luggage, walked down to the camp suggested by Nimrod and Tamar (-51.25507, -72.98694). Nice camp close to Rio Serrano, the stream was just tiny.
 Day 3 - walked one hour to the road and hitchhiked with very sweet tourists to Puerto Natales to check in the navimag ferry at 9 pm.
 ==Season 2024/25==

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	==Season 2025/26==		==Season 2025/26==
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		+	* '''2026-March-13 to 2026-March-15 / 2 days / Hiking / little loop / RH, OH A and B/ Isabelle & Sander
		+	'''
		+
		+	The Navimag ferry from Puerto Natales to Puerto Montt got delayed three days so we took advantage and made a little two-nights loop to the Paso Abelardo from Rio Serrano. Was a bit cold but little wind. Amazing views of the Torres del Paine! The last Ultra Fiord was organised in 2024 but the blue sticks covered most of our route, at the same time feels a bit weird on the empty trails but also very convenient.
		+
		+	Day 1 - taxi (20k) to Milodon cave (12k foreigners). After visiting we were lucky that the bus just passed from P. Natales to Rio Serrano (around 12h20) and we hopped on. 1,5k CLP pp, but priority for locals. Started hiking RH SOBO from Rio Serrano around 12 km to the Ultra Fiord camp at the intersection of RH and option A and B (-51.32343, -72.99942). Well sheltered between trees and a beautiful stream.
		+
		+	Day 2 - left much luggage at the camp and we did a circle of around 14 km to the Paso Abelardo anti-clockwise (option A -> option B). Cool views. Back at the camp we took our luggage, walked down to the camp suggested by Nimrod and Tamar (-51.25507, -72.98694). Nice camp close to Rio Serrano, the stream was just tiny.
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		+	Day 3 - walked one hour to the road and hitchhiked with very sweet tourists to Puerto Natales to check in the navimag ferry at 9 pm.

	==Season 2024/25==		==Season 2024/25==

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	==Season 2024/25==		==Season 2024/25==
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		+	* '''2025-March-21 to 2025-March-23/ 3 days / Hiking / NOBO / RR/ Nimrod & Tamar
		+	'''
		+
		+	We marked few optional camps because there wasn't any waypoints (all flat, wind protected with water nearby):
		+	-51.42383, -72.90185
		+	-51.40169, -72.96401
		+	-51.25507, -72.98694
		+
		+	In short- Beautiful section! Wild forest with a lot of purple mushrooms and psychodelic lichens! And a beautiful view of torres del paine ridge from afar after the pass.
		+
		+	Day 1- We started from Puerto Natales by ordering an Uber to Estancia Perales from the app. The driver told us he could not take us there because it's privet property, but he brought us half way on the MR (-51.352671,-72.396458) .
		+	We crossed the fence, started walking and got lucky with a hitch we got after half an hour from the grandughter of a worker at Estancia Perales, That's why she had the keys for the gates and could drive there.
		+	Right after Estancia Perales the bridge is broken so you have to ford the river. We forded a bit upstream, knee high. Walking the forest went slower then we expected because of slippery branches, mud, wetlands, and fallen trees
		+	Camped at- (-51.27007,-72.533701)
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		+	Day 2- walked all day through the forest quite slow. Kept following the blue sticks.
		+	Met Pierre-Marrie :) and also three other hikers that looked for an adventure after they got turned around at Torres Del paine for not having reservations for the "o". Slept right before the pass at (-51.235398, -72.589832) in a deserted camp from the old race.
		+
		+	Day 3 - walked up the pass. Views where incredible! Small Glaciers, lakes, and crazzzy wind! Didn't know it's possible to fall on the ground from wind- apparently it is, even with the heavy backpack! Probably 4 hours walk until we got to the next tree line- also a nice place to camp there.
		+	We went on down until Rio Serrano. Took a hitch from the main road to the near by campsite- payed 30k clp for pitching our tent+warm showers+wifi+electricity.
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		+	Next morning we continued to Torres del Paine. We didn't look for resupply at Rio Serrano.

	* ''' 2025-MAR-21 > 23 / 2,5 jours / Randonnée / NOBO / RR > 46-03 > 46-B > RR / Pierre-Marie '''		* ''' 2025-MAR-21 > 23 / 2,5 jours / Randonnée / NOBO / RR > 46-03 > 46-B > RR / Pierre-Marie '''

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	==Season 2024/25==		==Season 2024/25==
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		+	* ''' 2025-MAR-21 > 23 / 2,5 jours / Randonnée / NOBO / RR > 46-03 > 46-B > RR / Pierre-Marie '''
		+
		+	Etape : GPT46+GPT45
		+	\| Meteo : nuages, vent le dernier jour
		+	\| Eau : facile sauf sur la gravel road
		+	\| Neige : très peu
		+	\| Intérêt : 4/5
		+	\| Difficulté : 5/5
		+	\| Danger : sentier très humide
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		+	Le bus a mis 7h de El Calafate à Puerto Natales à cause notamment de la frontière (border control AR : -51.6900747, -72.2970717 ; border control CL : -51.6993272, -72.3279401). J'attend 2 jours à Puerto Natales que la pluie passe. J'ai demandé au bureau "Turismo 21 de Mayo" quel était le prix pour le ferry Puerto Natales > Estancia Perales. Il y a deux options :
		+	Transport privé > 180 000 CLP / Transport partagé (travailleurs) > 80 000 CLP. Je vais donc essayer de faire du stop autant que possible. Et ça n'a pas fonctionné. La route est peu fréquentée et se termine en cul de sac pour les véhicules. Il n'y a pas d'eau avant le canal et le torrent au km 58,8. Le pont est détruit à l'estancia Perales, c'est un ford simple car le torrent a plusieurs branches. Il était en crue dans mon cas et je n'ai pas eu de problème. Il y a de l'eau environ 3km après l'estancia Perales. La suite est balisée SoBo, parfois les batons bleu sont derrière les arbres pour les NoBo. Le sentier était très humide voir innondé. Beaucoup de boue, d'arbre et de branches en travers du chemin, et les marais sont impossible à traverser sans mouiller ses chaussures.
		+	Par contre je n'ai eu aucun ford car j'ai toujours trouvé un arbre couché pour traverser. J'ai été serieusement ralenti par l'état du sentier et je suis arrivé à 18h à la bifurcation avec la 46-03. Mauvais timing. Je n'ai pas utilisé le camp avec le mur en pierre situé à la bifurcation car ça ne protège pas des rafales. J'ai cherché un camp à l'abri du vent dans la vallée et j'en ai trouvé un à 1km près du grand torrent. J'ai bien fait de camper en bas car sur la 46-03 et la 46-B je n'ai vu aucune place et le vent était infernal. Il y avait de la neige fraiche dans la montée avant le paso Abelardo. Je conseille ce detours car c'est la seule partie vraiment sympa de cette section (j'adore les randonnées Alpines). Il y a un camp au point (-51.3234283, -72.9994182) ou les 3 pistes se rejoignent dans la descente. Toute la randonnée était balisée. Je pense que tôt ou tard il faudra payer pour la faire, c'est rare d'avoir des aménagements gratuits...

	*'''05-03-25 to 08-03-25 / 3 days (2 full days and 2 half days) / SOBO / OH 01 + new route (Fjällräven classic) / MiaimZelt'''		*'''05-03-25 to 08-03-25 / 3 days (2 full days and 2 half days) / SOBO / OH 01 + new route (Fjällräven classic) / MiaimZelt'''

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 *'''05-03-25 to 08-03-25 / 3 days (2 full days and 2 half days) / SOBO / OH 01 + new route (Fjällräven classic)  / MiaimZelt'''
-Summary: explored a new option, not yet part of the GPT-files. Followed the route of the Fjällräven classic 2024, the GPX can be downloaded (for free with Account) at Wikiloc.
+Summary: explored a new option, not yet part of the GPT-files. Followed the route of the Fjällräven classic 2024, the GPX can be downloaded (for free with Account) at Wikiloc. You can find the link in my post in the Facebook group.
 Found a well marked trail in great conditions that leads through very scenic landscapes. Also a very lonely one. Campspots are easy to find.

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	==Season 2024/25==		==Season 2024/25==
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		+	05-03-25 to 08-03-25 / 3 days (2 full days and 2 half days) / SOBO / OH 01 + new route (Fjällräven classic) / MiaimZelt
		+
		+	Summary: explored a new option, not yet part of the GPT-files. Followed the route of the Fjällräven classic 2024, the GPX can be downloaded (for free with Account) at Wikiloc.
		+	Found a well marked trail in great conditions that leads through very scenic landscapes. Also a very lonely one. Campspots are easy to find.
		+
		+	Day 1: Took a Uber to Cueva del Milodon. From there it's easy to hitch to Villa Serrano. Lot's of tourist cars drive on this road. Started hiking at 3pm on OH 01. Had enough time to do a detour to William's lookout
		+	-51.276378, -72.964356. The markings with the blue sticks started soon after Laguna Escondida. Was worth the detour, you also can continue to the RH-trail. Near Laguna Escondida it's possible to find a sheltered spot for camping in the forest. I decided to camp here -51.254316, -72.963027 with awesome views at TdP NP.
		+
		+	Day 2: The trail was marked with blue sticks the whole day. Also found some original markings from the Fjällräven classic event. A lot more lakes in this area than on the maps for example here -51.242426, -72.940097 and here -51.240196, -72.932255. Sometimes the trail is wide and looks like a 4x4 track, but it's clearly used by horses and has vegetation on it. After crossing the road it becomes a singletrail again. Very scenic along Toro lake, the trail is in superb conditions. Few water sources for example here -51.250219, -72.871242. Bridge here:
		+	-51.270129, -72.854358. Directly after the bridge i saw a private property sign in the direction i was coming from, but it made no sense, there was nothing but nature. Nice waterfall -51.269681, -72.852919, don't miss it. Soon you reach a road that leads to the Patagonia Camp Hotel, the trails seem to belong to them, but they also seem to be public. There are signs indicating trails. After crossing the area of the Hotel on the MR i came along a ruin (Puesto Dudas), here begins the next superb trail, again with the familiar blue sticks. Great views at Lago Porteño and Toro Lake. Toro Lake Access: -51.299071, -72.808406 and -51.294378, -72.7913.
		+	Camped here -51.294148, -72.785916 and saw an incredible sunset.
		+
		+	Day 3: After the bridge between Lago Maravilla and Toro Lake the new option begins, it's neither on OSM nor in the GPT Files. Just follow the blue sticks, they lead the best way. Came across some fences, that i could cross with a wooden ladder. The path crosses the road and ascends steeply afterwards. Than it's flat, before it goes up again. After crossing a creek (walking on stones) and climbing over a ladder, the trail and the blue sticks disappeared. I have no idea why, walked CC (very easy) until i reached a 4x4 track, that can be seen on OSM. Followed it until it approached a house and a fence. Was unsure whether i should cross the private property or not and decided to walk around CC a bit below. Rejoined the trail a few minutes later and found another ladder. Also the blue sticks reappeared. Camped with some trees here: -51.442719, -72.633219. Some random dogs came by and disappeared quickly, but they were alone. Saw them again next day with cattle.
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		+	Day 4: Again blue sticks and fences with ladders. Crossed a area with a simple house and lot's of dogs here:
		+	-51.450727, -72.595176. The blue sticks clearly lead this way, at the end of the property there is another ladder. On the other side the steep climb to Cerro Mocho starts. Here -51.469667, -72.558923 water and Camping options below the summit with nice shelter from the elements. The summit is still decorated with the swedish red cross. Downhill we follow a wide track, until we hit a nice singletrail (not on OSM) that leads through the forest. The blue sticks lead you to a horse meadow at Estancia Dos Lagunas, but i was uncertain how to get access to the road. Tried the OSM trail first, but it doesn't exist and there is a fence that can't be opened. Went back to the horse meadow and simply went through it. Both sides have gates that can be opened and cloesed easily. There were people nearby, but they ignored me. At the road it was easy to hitch to Puerto Natales. Arrived at 2 pm.
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	Test edit 2025-03-15		Test edit 2025-03-15

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	==Season 2024/25==		==Season 2024/25==
		+	Test edit 2025-03-15
		+
	* '''09-12-24 to 12-12-24 / 3.5 day's / NOBO / RR / Robin & Manon'''		* '''09-12-24 to 12-12-24 / 3.5 day's / NOBO / RR / Robin & Manon'''

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 ==Season 2024/25==
-*09-12-24 to 12-12-24 / 3.5 day's / NOBO / RR / Robin & Manon
+* '''09-12-24 to 12-12-24 / 3.5 day's / NOBO / RR / Robin & Manon'''
 Great easy and scenic section, met noone, feels great to arrive at Torres del Paine by foot !
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 No easy resupply at Rio Serrano. However all campings on Torres del Paine provide basic (junk food) resupply that can get you on the O and W trek. We relied only on that.
-*02-11-2024 to 06-11-2024 / 4,5 days / NOBO / RR / Sophie and Gaspar
+* '''02-11-2024 to 06-11-2024 / 4,5 days / NOBO / RR / Sophie and Gaspar'''
 Our journey began on November 2nd, departing from Puerto Natales. The first two days were spent reaching Estancia Peralta via a road that started paved but quickly transitioned to gravel, posing no significant challenges. The only noteworthy incidents were a few “Private Road” signs and a landowner initially reluctant to let us pass, claiming it was private property. However, after explaining our destination, Estancia Peralta, he allowed us through without further issues.
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-* 30-11-2024 to 02-12-2024 / 3 days / SOBO / RR / Celio, Amalia and Isabelle
+* '''30-11-2024 to 02-12-2024 / 3 days / SOBO / RR / Celio, Amalia and Isabelle'''
 We did what it's now the regular route on the newest gpt track files from 2024 ( the one not crossing paso byron and the cerro Chacabuco glaciar).