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‎Season 2024/25

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Huemul: /* Resupply and Accommodation along the Route */

2023-12-16T21:00:26Z

‎Resupply and Accommodation along the Route

Huemul: /* Transport to and from Route */

2023-12-16T20:59:27Z

‎Transport to and from Route

Huemul: /* Transport to and from Route */

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Huemul: /* Season 2023/24 */

2023-12-16T16:00:21Z

‎Season 2023/24

Huemul: /* Season 2023/24 */

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 The 14 km section, starting at km 27.1, is actually a MR, not a CC. To connect to this section, you'll need to climb over a locked gate.
 Challenges:
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 *We were struck by the low nighttime temperature on the first night near Seno Otway (in the morning we measured -8°C)
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 *A good tent spot by a stream is approximately at km 69.1, at coordinates -53.0550766, -71.0375933.
 Water:
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 -53.0560783, -71.0382283 (stream)
 -53.0780834, -71.0032721 (pond)
 -53.0830333, -71.0030701 (stream)
 -53.1112842, -70.9483653 (stream)

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	==Season 2024/25==		==Season 2024/25==
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		+	*'''2025-APR-13 to 2025-APR-15 / 2,5 days / Hiking / SOBO / RR / Ivan, Jakub, Daniel'''
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		+	Less traveled, more of a connecting section. The first part was basically completely dry during our time there.
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		+	The 14 km section, starting at km 27.1, is actually a MR, not a CC. To connect to this section, you'll need to climb over a locked gate.
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		+	Challenges:
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		+	*Lack of water (see Water section)
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		+	*We were struck by the low nighttime temperature on the first night near Seno Otway (in the morning we measured -8°C)
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		+	Bivouacking:
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		+	*In Villa Ponsomby, we camped in the waiting room for the ferry.
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		+	*Near Ruta Y-50, at coordinates -52.7432939, -71.3522154, there's a small hut with a mattress.
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		+	*Another emergency shelter is about at km 28.5, at coordinates -52.8082782, -71.1813610.
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		+	*Along the CC section by Seno Otway, there was no wind and finding a place for tents wasn’t a problem.
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		+	*A good tent spot by a stream is approximately at km 69.1, at coordinates -53.0550766, -71.0375933.
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		+	Water:
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		+	In Villa Ponsomby, we collected water from the public restrooms (-52.6504745, -71.4640635). In April, there was very little water in nature, and up to Settler Point {48} [62.2/87], we only encountered a few murky puddles. However, the Ruta Y-50 was fairly busy with cars, so it's definitely an option to try to stop a passing vehicle for water. We asked for water from a woman in the Ankel settlement (Settlement {48} [46.8+1.0/43]). In nature, we found drinkable water only at the following points:
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		+	-53.0560783, -71.0382283 (stream)
		+	-53.0780834, -71.0032721 (pond)
		+	-53.0830333, -71.0030701 (stream)
		+	-53.1112842, -70.9483653 (stream)
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		+	Resupply:
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		+	*There is a small but decently stocked store inside Cafetería y emporio Río Verde in Villa Ponsomby. (A bit of an unusual schedule: Monday 10:00–20:00, Tuesday to Friday 9:00–20:00, Saturday 10:30–18:00, Sunday 13:00–18:00.)
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		+	*Punta Arenas is a large city, so there are plenty of resupply options.

	==Season 2023/24==		==Season 2023/24==

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+If you are packrafting, put the above into like this <nowiki><span style="background-color:aqua;"></nowiki><span style="background-color:aqua;">'''YYYY-MMM-DD / X days / Packrafting / SOBO / RP / Your name'''</span><nowiki></span></nowiki>. If you follow a hiking route for part of the way, highlight only "packrafting".
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 ==Season 2023/24==
-Frank / 2.2 days / Mostly RR / 13 to 15-12-2023 SOBO
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 . I got the bus to Rio Verde (see Transport section) and walked back 27KM on the road to the point where the RR leaves the road & runs down to the beach.  There is a hut there but it´s locked.  From outside the hut I hitched back to Punta Arenas.  About 11KM from Rio Verde there is a minefield on LHS of road but it´s clearly marked & fenced off.
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 I continued through the forest in 1 long day (11 hours walking) & just as I arrived above Punta Arenas I got the last bus of the day (Pampa Redonda to Centre) As you approach Punta Arenas you go through a gate marked Private no Entry next to a house but it was after 9PM so there was no one there.
-From 2023-11-17 to 2023-11-19 // 3 days // Hiking // NOBO // RR // Quentin Clavel
+* '''From 2023-11-17 to 2023-11-19 // 3 days // Hiking // NOBO // RR // Quentin Clavel'''
 After leaving the crowdy Punta Arenas, it was a pleasure to go on smaller trails and be back on face to face with nature. You'll pass threw some areas In the backcountry with plenty of cattles and bulls. One of them was on the trail and was not affraid to see me, it changes compare to wild bulls I've seen at the really beginning of the journey in Yendegaia.
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 Along the beach is nice, and until Rio verde you'll follow a gravel road. Not a lot of river to resupply in water. But at villa ponsomby it's possible on the public toilets. There's a cafe here too, but it was close when I pass threw there.
-Comment Jan Dudeck December 2023: I updated the track file accordingly. The new route will published starting from 2024 (but not 2023).
+'''Comment Jan Dudeck December 2023''': I updated the track file accordingly. The new route will published starting from 2024 (but not 2023).
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+There is a cafe with a shop in Rio Verde.  The Rio Verde bus station is good, it has drinking water and a kettle.
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-December 2023 info. From the rural bus station in Punta Arenas to Rio Verde Monday and Wednesday 8.30.  Tuesday, Friday and Saturday Punta Arenas to Rio Verde continuing to Rio Perez 9.00.
+December 2023 info. From the rural bus station in Punta Arenas to Rio Verde Monday and Wednesday 8.30.
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 . I got the bus to Rio Verde (see Transport section) and walked back 27KM on the road to the point where the RR leaves the road & runs down to the beach.  There is a hut there but it´s locked.  From outside the hut I hitched back to Punta Arenas.  About 11KM from Rio Verde there is a minefield on LHS of road but it´s clearly marked & fenced off.
-. On my day off I got the Pampa Redonda bus & walked back about 7KM to Punta Arenas Plaza de Armas.  The last few KM out of town are not pleasant & there are a lot of loose dogs.  Bring a stick & don´t walk this section at night.  Just above the last bus stop is a house with a lot of dogs, mostly behind a fence but two were loose & agressive.  I showed them I had a stick & they backed off.  The owner, instead of controlling his dogs, started threatening me. This part is on a public road so you don´t need to tolerate that.
+. On my day off I got the Pampa Redonda bus & walked back about 7KM to Punta Arenas Plaza de Armas.  The last few KM out of town are not pleasant & there are a lot of loose dogs.  Bring a stick & don´t walk this section at night.  Just above the last bus stop is a house with a lot of dogs, mostly behind a fence but two were loose & aggressive.  I showed them I had a stick & they backed off.  The owner, instead of controlling his dogs, started threatening me. This part is on a public road so you don´t need to tolerate that.
 . I again got the Rio Verde bus, got off at the hut & walked to the beach.  There is a jeep track running by the beach for about 8KM.  There are a few basic huts along the first 4KM of shore.  At a gate I stayed outside the fence near the beach & when the jeep track ran out I walked on the beach at low tide.  Easy walking with the wind at my back.  I had read Quentin´s report (thanks Quentin) so when I reached the road at the end of the beach I immediately left it & went cross country for several KM towards the military base.  You will spot the base from a long way off as there are lots of aerials & a big yellow building.  Easy CC walking, there is scrub but I got through it on small cow trails.  I stayed back about 800M from the base on sheep tracks and just before the last aerial I rejoined the RR.  That way I met no one until I got to Punta Arenas.  Before the Estancia marked Museum of Antique Cars on Openstreetmap was a high fence, a bit awkward to get over.  Lots of bulls in the fenced field, best to stay about 20 metres away from them.  They looked a bit angry when I got closer but didn´t do anything. After the next Estancia you are in forest, some water there & after a few KM there is an Into the Wild bus, not luxury but it has two beds.  Better to camp outside it.

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	==Season 2023/24==		==Season 2023/24==
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		+	Frank / 2.2 days / Mostly RR / 13 to 15-12-2023 SOBO
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		+	1. I got the bus to Rio Verde (see Transport section) and walked back 27KM on the road to the point where the RR leaves the road & runs down to the beach. There is a hut there but it´s locked. From outside the hut I hitched back to Punta Arenas. About 11KM from Rio Verde there is a minefield on LHS of road but it´s clearly marked & fenced off.
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		+	2. On my day off I got the Pampa Redonda bus & walked back about 7KM to Punta Arenas Plaza de Armas. The last few KM out of town are not pleasant & there are a lot of loose dogs. Bring a stick & don´t walk this section at night. Just above the last bus stop is a house with a lot of dogs, mostly behind a fence but two were loose & agressive. I showed them I had a stick & they backed off. The owner, instead of controlling his dogs, started threatening me. This part is on a public road so you don´t need to tolerate that.
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		+	3. I again got the Rio Verde bus, got off at the hut & walked to the beach. There is a jeep track running by the beach for about 8KM. There are a few basic huts along the first 4KM of shore. At a gate I stayed outside the fence near the beach & when the jeep track ran out I walked on the beach at low tide. Easy walking with the wind at my back. I had read Quentin´s report (thanks Quentin) so when I reached the road at the end of the beach I immediately left it & went cross country for several KM towards the military base. You will spot the base from a long way off as there are lots of aerials & a big yellow building. Easy CC walking, there is scrub but I got through it on small cow trails. I stayed back about 800M from the base on sheep tracks and just before the last aerial I rejoined the RR. That way I met no one until I got to Punta Arenas. Before the Estancia marked Museum of Antique Cars on Openstreetmap was a high fence, a bit awkward to get over. Lots of bulls in the fenced field, best to stay about 20 metres away from them. They looked a bit angry when I got closer but didn´t do anything. After the next Estancia you are in forest, some water there & after a few KM there is an Into the Wild bus, not luxury but it has two beds. Better to camp outside it.
		+	I continued through the forest in 1 long day (11 hours walking) & just as I arrived above Punta Arenas I got the last bus of the day (Pampa Redonda to Centre) As you approach Punta Arenas you go through a gate marked Private no Entry next to a house but it was after 9PM so there was no one there.

	From 2023-11-17 to 2023-11-19 // 3 days // Hiking // NOBO // RR // Quentin Clavel		From 2023-11-17 to 2023-11-19 // 3 days // Hiking // NOBO // RR // Quentin Clavel