GPT17P (Neltume)
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Season 2025/26
Season 2024/25
- 2024-12-28 to 2024-12-29 / 1.5days / Packrafting/ SOBO/ RP (new option from Liquiñe) / Natalie & Tomáš.
From Pucón we took one of the many minibuses to the Villarica terminal and then caught a minibus to Coñaripe, which was already waiting there. We were told they go every ten minutes from 6:15 until evening. Both Lican Ray and Coñaripe were cute and tranquil towns, if Pucón didn't have good food I would have rather stayed on this side. From Coñaripe, where we got at about 11:30, we got a hitch to Liquine in about 30 minutes; a bus supposedly left at 2pm.
Tomáš was very curious about the river section that started at the end of Liquine. We flipped a coin and he won so we made a put in at the end of town near (just after) the parking for Termas rio Liquiñe (waypoint Ferry {17H} [5.7/237] (Rio Liquine)). A friendly caretaker and ferryman chatted with us for a bit and gave some river advice. My preference for a start was at the bridge in the beginning of town due to time but both worked.
This section that we paddled from Liquine to the start of the regular route had more rapids. I am not one to judge, but I would say they were class01, no greater than Low class 02 rapids. (Tomáš: the biggest rapid was right at the beginning, but it was straightforward). With that said, it was slightly more enjoyable than the later half of the river. Obstacles besides the river were shallow rocks. We hit our exposed knees a few times (canoe seats). There was an excavator working under the bridge in town (where the river temporarily splits) so we had to go right, but I think the left would have been better. They are renovating the river bank so time will tell with what happens to the river. Lots of fishermen out with their long lines in the water so be careful.
Having canoe paddles that fit together to form one kayak paddle helped for the sections I wanted to walk and Tomáš wanted to paddle. There was only one section that was in the very beginning of RP route that we both chose to walk as it looked dangerous: -39.70205, -71.88634 so far, everynody seems to have out in after that). It was a fast moving narrow bend with an undercut like feature and lots of wood and current driving you onto a rock at the end of it.
The RP in my opinion was more woody than expected. Sometimes it felt like a battlefield squeezing the Packraft between the necks of sunken logs, but I am new at this, luckily the flow was pretty slow. Also, remember to go left at the first leftward bend after Quilmio camping, the river splits there.
We made camp on a lovely grass bank opposite of camp 6.2 (-39.70521, -71.92260). There is a road that leads to it and I believe a property nearby because I heard horses, but we did not see anyone except for some fishermen on the other side of the river. Besides a spring on river left, shortly after town, we never found a good water source, so I boiled water from the river and Tomáš did without water.
The next day we continued the meander. Everything felt like it got progressively easier but wood was still sneaking up here and there. The tebanos were relentless, this is our third year here and for me I have never had them at the level we had them that day. They didn't even leave us alone while crossing the windy lake Tomáš: I must have killed like 70 of them over this section). And as for the lake, when we got to Lago Neltume, we had a moderate headwind, however the waves were noticable but harmless. Therefore we basically aimed and paddled straight to the campground @24.7, which took us slightly above one hour.
At the campground there were two groups of people but very spread apart. No (free) drinking water but there were toilets and tables ext. Nobody asked us for anything. I had a super lovely swim in the lake, the temperature was perfect and I enjoyed a break from the tabanos. When we left we made a silly mistake. We both assumed the double padlock on the closed gate was locked so Tomáš ended up cutting a bunch of blackberries near the side fence in order for us to jump over. We found out later it wasn't actually locked because the couple that gave us a hitch to Neltume were staying there. Before getting that hitch we walked perhaps 1-2km on the road.
It was Sunday but shops were still open in Neltume to buy food. Definitely enough to resupply if needed. There are a couple of main shops in the center but the best shop of all was the fruit/veg stand on the right of the main road just at the east end of town. Good prices and quality.
There was good internet in Liquiñe, all over lake Neltume and both Puerto Guy and Neltume (and it seemed in between too) including our last camspot. Also we noticed upper Rio Cuacua had some coverage, but our middle camspot was offline.
The last hitch to Puerto Fuy was easy and short and we had dinner at the only restaurant open, the main restaurant "Puerto Fuy". The salmon and salsa appetizer was very good, but a bit pricey. If you can order just a jar of the salsa I would try for that! Then we walked a bit to find a camp spot (Water {17H} [34.0/646], -39.87034, -71.87386; that is 50 metres after the well built MR ends, from there on, the trail is a trail that used to be an NR but is not passsable for cars at all) to start the paddle of Lago Pirihueico (GPT18) the next day and say hi to Clara (whom we missed in Pucón), hi Clara!
Season 2023/24
- 2023-Dec-05/ 2 days / Packrafting / SOBO / 17P-A + 17P / Lauren & Sebastian
We took the bus from Valdivia to Panguipulli and caught a connecting bus on the same day to Liquiñe that dropped us at {17P-A} [1.3+1.7]. We hiked down the road to camping Quilmio which was closed. After that, we crossed the bridge and spoke to the owner of the land who let us camp there for a small fee. The next day, we rivered in under the bridge. Meandering downstream in Rio Cua-cua was peaceful but required attention to look out for fallen trees (which are easy to spot). Headwind started to build up as we approached Lago Neltume around late afternoon. Because of the relatively strong headwind and waves, it required hard paddling and progress was not as fast as we expected. However we managed to reach the end of the lake by evening and camped at Camping Neltume Lake Paradise ($7000 per person). The next day, we hiked on the paved road to Neltume, from where we hitch-hiked to Puerto Fuy. Along the road, we saw signs to an interesting volcanic cavern trail which we did not explore.
- 2023-Nov-20 / 2 days / Packrafting / SOBO / 17P-01 + 17P-01A + RR / Tom Pieper
I started from Conaripe (transfer by bus from Pucon with change in Villarica) with option 01. After a short wlak through town and farmland I inflated my packraft and crossed Lago Pellaifa. There is space for camping on the southern shore but its farmland I guess. I stayed at Termas Pelleifas (Hot Spring, Camp $ {17P-01} [12.2/232]) which have nice pools of different temperated water. I was nearly alone there. Next day I walked to Rio Liquine and entered at the bridge near Camp $, River {17P-A} [2.7/208]. The stream looks a little bit turbulent at the bridge but its gets more gentle just after the next bent. Its a beautifull journey down the river. Only few obstacles which were easy to spot. I crossed the Lago Neltume afterwards, too, which was easy with backwind. I landed at the camp spot on the other side of the lake but do not recommend camping there but walk further 300m. Camping Rio Chan-Chan (Camp $ {17P} [25.3/206]) is far more beautifull and costs the same ($7000). The next day I walked the steet to Porto Fuy for a few kilometers until a bus passed.
Season 2022/23
- 2023-Jan-03 / 1 day / Packrafting / SOBO / Zach
A peaceful paddle through the woods. There was one fallen tree across the river requiring easily lifting the boat over. The lago Neltume was very head windy in the afternoon so I walked the road but was quickly offered a ride to Ruta 203 where a bus soon passed.
Season 2021/22
Season 2020/21
Season 2019/20
- 2019-Dec-3 / 2 days / Packrafting / SOBO / RR / Shaun C
Plenty of semi-submerged trees in the Rio Liquiñe/CuaCua, but the river is passable and relatively gentle throughout. The entrance to Lago Neltume from the river is beautiful. The hiking turn-off after Neltume at Km 35.7 seemed clear. There’s a wooden gate, then dirt roads. Also spent a few extra hours away from regular route exploring Op-Mr-V@17P-03 to see if there was a way across Rio ChanChan after previous destruction of the bridge. No luck. Seems bridge has not been replaced and in a definitely-not-thorough search, I didn’t find an easy alternative crossing point.
Season 2018/19
Season 2017/18
- Kara Davis
The GPT does not go through Carriringue, but if you do decide to go into town the route is easy to rejoin by walking south along the paved road, T-29, to Río Liquiñe. There is an established campsite (5.000 CLP/night) which is part of the Red de Turismo Rural where the paved road crosses the river. This campsite has flush toilets, cold showers, and trash. The Río Liquiñe is windy and narrow. Pay attention to the several semi-submerged fallen trees that litter the river. The packrafting portion of this section ends with a 4 km paddle along the eastern shore of Lago Neltume. There’s easy access to the road, T-29, the entire time, but camping is improbable due to the abundance of private property. At the end of the lake paddle, there is an established campsite (5.000 CLP/night). This site has flush toilets and trash. Alternate Route: At this point, the recommended packrafting route turns off T-29 onto a gravel road. DO NOT TAKE THIS ROUTE. It eventually leads to a river that is now impassible due to a destroyed bridge. An alternative is to continue along T-29 until reaching the highway, 203-CH. Follow this highway through Neltume all the way to Puerto Fuy. Although the recommended packrafting route turns off of the highway after Neltume, on the ground it was unclear where this turnoff was. We decided to road walk all the way to Puerto Fuy. Comment by Jan Dudeck: Last season and this season 3 hikers/couples attempted to follow this route (RP-MR-V@17P-25.1). Two turned back, one made it over the river mentioned by Kara above. So the safest option is currently not take regular route (track RP-MR-V@17P-25.1) but stay on the main road taking Variant “H” (track OP-PR-V@17P-H-#). Town: Neltume/Puerto Fuy to Panguipulli Neltume has options for lodging, a few restaurants, and a bus to Panguipulli—the closest large town for resupply. Ask a local for directions to the bus stop and about arrival times. At Puerto Fuy, there were several signs advertising lodging. However, it would be difficult to resupply here. Comment by Jan Dudeck: I recall about half a dozen mini shops in Puerto Fuy that are sometimes hidden in the side roads. But its a best practice to resupply in the first bigger shop you find on the route (i.e. Neltume) and try in the next village to purchase what you did not get in the first place (i.e. Puerto Fuy).
Resupply and Accommodation
Resupply and Accommodation in nearby Towns
Puerto Fuy has a few restaurants and food shops.
Resupply and Accommodation along the Route
Transport to and from Route
Regular buses run from Puerto Fuy.
A car and passenger ferry runs the length of Lago Pirihueico several times a day from Puerto Fuy to the south-eastern end of the lake.
Permits, Entry Fees and Right-of-Way Issues
Links to other Resources
Retired Section Article GPT17P - Neltume